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Discussion: given the setup I won't impose numbers but I will at least set bullets to designate between chains. a following edit will come when I find a neat way to spoiler a section
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=== Discussion ===
=== Discussion ===


:@[[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] have you been on other Wiki platforms before as I would often use those as perspective  [[User:Lvst7070|Lvst7070]] ([[User talk:Lvst7070|talk]]) 03:39, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*@[[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] have you been on other Wiki platforms before as I would often use those as perspective  [[User:Lvst7070|Lvst7070]] ([[User talk:Lvst7070|talk]]) 03:39, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, my wiki was previously on Miraheze, before getting moved to here. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:Yes, my wiki was previously on Miraheze, before getting moved to here. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
::I’ve also used fandom [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:I’ve also used fandom [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
<s>{{oppose}} submitting an opposition. I strongly encourage the candidate to explore alternative ways to contribute that do not involve advanced permissions before requesting any such permissions. Furthermore, I do not currently feel comfortable granting advanced permissions to someone who is not well-known within the community without demonstrating the necessary skills and trust required for these permissions. Being a moderator alone does not justify sufficient experience to warrant the level of expertise needed for these permissions, as there is much more involved than merely understanding the fundamentals of moderating MediaWiki functions and knowing how to utilize the tools. --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 16:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)</s>
*<s>{{oppose}} submitting an opposition. I strongly encourage the candidate to explore alternative ways to contribute that do not involve advanced permissions before requesting any such permissions. Furthermore, I do not currently feel comfortable granting advanced permissions to someone who is not well-known within the community without demonstrating the necessary skills and trust required for these permissions. Being a moderator alone does not justify sufficient experience to warrant the level of expertise needed for these permissions, as there is much more involved than merely understanding the fundamentals of moderating MediaWiki functions and knowing how to utilize the tools. --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 16:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)</s>
:Struck due to the use of LLMs in this comment. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 16:34, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:Struck due to the use of LLMs in this comment. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 16:34, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
::reading that that does not sound like it was made by LLAMAS at all yes that's what I call llms llamas  [[User:Lvst7070|Lvst7070]] ([[User talk:Lvst7070|talk]]) 17:21, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*::reading that that does not sound like it was made by LLAMAS at all yes that's what I call llms llamas  [[User:Lvst7070|Lvst7070]] ([[User talk:Lvst7070|talk]]) 17:21, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:::I did use LLMS, however probably shouldn't of - There is no policy against it  And therefore should unstriked  until such policy is put into place  [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*::I did use LLMS, however probably shouldn't of - There is no policy against it  And therefore should unstriked  until such policy is put into place  [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
::::There is no policy against murdering people who vandalise wikis, it's still frowned upon --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:::There is no policy against murdering people who vandalise wikis, it's still frowned upon --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::I mean, there's the law.. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:27, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*::::I mean, there's the law.. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:27, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:::It's very generic and doesn't follow the pattern of writing I'd expect to see, and makes no grammatical sense: "Oppose submitting an opposition" is a double negative. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*::It's very generic and doesn't follow the pattern of writing I'd expect to see, and makes no grammatical sense: "Oppose submitting an opposition" is a double negative. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:<blockquote> Oppose submitting an opposition </blockquote>
*:<blockquote> Oppose submitting an opposition </blockquote>
:Do you support or oppose? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:Do you support or oppose? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:: oppose- However, there is still no policy which Underlines such  [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:26, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:: oppose- However, there is still no policy which Underlines such  [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:26, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:::Again, it's frowned upon, and removes any validity from your argument, the whole point is simply they "don't have enough experience", but you could've just written that instead of a paragraph of incoherent blabber that I makes little to no sense --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:32, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:::Again, it's frowned upon, and removes any validity from your argument, the whole point is simply they "don't have enough experience", but you could've just written that instead of a paragraph of incoherent blabber that I makes little to no sense --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:32, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:{{support|weak}}: ultimately I don't see a major difference between your credibility and that of the other GS/Stews. I think there's room here to coach and grow. The work on IBW — wrangling a fairly substantial number of misbehaving children without leaving it as someone else's problem — is definitely something in your favour, however I don't know whether GS is the way to go for this. I commend you throwing your hat into the ring. I implore to you that if this request does succeed that you take things slowly and learn how they work before doing anything drastic, but generally I don't have any significant concerns beyond the general lack of experience, although it's not incomparable to what already exists on the team, and I'd hope you could shape into a fairly active contributor globally with the right guidance, but I won't jump the gun there. Best, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:24, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{support|weak}}: ultimately I don't see a major difference between your credibility and that of the other GS/Stews. I think there's room here to coach and grow. The work on IBW — wrangling a fairly substantial number of misbehaving children without leaving it as someone else's problem — is definitely something in your favour, however I don't know whether GS is the way to go for this. I commend you throwing your hat into the ring. I implore to you that if this request does succeed that you take things slowly and learn how they work before doing anything drastic, but generally I don't have any significant concerns beyond the general lack of experience, although it's not incomparable to what already exists on the team, and I'd hope you could shape into a fairly active contributor globally with the right guidance, but I won't jump the gun there. Best, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:24, 12 May 2026 (UTC)


:{{oppose}} --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{oppose}} --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
 
*:Just so you know, I’m not just a moderator on the wiki, I’m the owner. I’ve been working with different stewards for quite some time now, and have been moderating for nearly a year now. Raidarr is a steward on miraheze, so he can fill you in on the details about his experience with me when the wiki was on miraheze. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 21:29, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:Just so you know, I’m not just a moderator on the wiki, I’m the owner. I’ve been working with different stewards for quite some time now, and have been moderating for nearly a year now. Raidarr is a steward on miraheze, so he can fill you in on the details about his experience with me when the wiki was on miraheze. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 21:29, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{Neutral}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 00:58, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
:{{Neutral}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 00:58, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
*going to go with an {{oppose}} here, while I applaud your efforts and acknowledge you've been helpful but I personally believe the GA toolset is too advanced for someone who has little presence outside their own wiki. I don't think simply having experience managing your own wiki makes you qualified for such a large hat. I would suggest trying to build a helpful presence such as on our Discord or here on meta. [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 21:00, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
: going to go with an {{oppose}} here, while I applaud your efforts and acknowledge you've been helpful but I personally believe the GA toolset is too advanced for someone who has little presence outside their own wiki. I don't think simply having experience managing your own wiki makes you qualified for such a large hat. I would suggest trying to build a helpful presence such as on our Discord or here on meta. [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 21:00, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
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