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#:I understand Steward and Global Sysops are very different roles. However I was mentioning on why are you giving them a Support vote and didn't point out the same issue you had with me when Crystalite had quite literally nearly zero interactions with WikiOasis until they got appointed as Global Sysop as Global Sysop still retains a lot of power, I don't believe requestors should be able to immediately get a hat, especially one as powerful as Global Sysop when they have never interacted with the community a lot before. At least I interacted with the community before on Discord, but Crystalite didn't until very recently. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 17:52, 19 April 2026 (UTC) | #:I understand Steward and Global Sysops are very different roles. However I was mentioning on why are you giving them a Support vote and didn't point out the same issue you had with me when Crystalite had quite literally nearly zero interactions with WikiOasis until they got appointed as Global Sysop as Global Sysop still retains a lot of power, I don't believe requestors should be able to immediately get a hat, especially one as powerful as Global Sysop when they have never interacted with the community a lot before. At least I interacted with the community before on Discord, but Crystalite didn't until very recently. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 17:52, 19 April 2026 (UTC) | ||
#::I simply look for different things in candidates than you do—and that’s okay. I would prefer a candidate with more experience with MediaWiki, and workings of a farm in general (Mira specifically) than someone who is very familiar with our community, albeit only on discord. If you had more (any) on-wiki experience anywhere, I would be much more comfortable supporting such a request. I do wish you the best of luck in your global sysop request next week as I agree you are better suited for that role. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 02:02, 20 April 2026 (UTC) | #::I simply look for different things in candidates than you do—and that’s okay. I would prefer a candidate with more experience with MediaWiki, and workings of a farm in general (Mira specifically) than someone who is very familiar with our community, albeit only on discord. If you had more (any) on-wiki experience anywhere, I would be much more comfortable supporting such a request. I do wish you the best of luck in your global sysop request next week as I agree you are better suited for that role. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 02:02, 20 April 2026 (UTC) | ||
#::On elaboration both to me and over here I don't find Globe's logic unreasonable. There is precedence in this space for 'credentialed outsiders' to be brought in, the exact line for what qualifies is debatable of course. But while it would have been nice to approach with a principled vote later instead of an attitude of I must vote as early as possible, the logic has definitely come through and the rest comes down to voter discretion. I was also curious if this was a unilateral appointment earler and it appears at least Tali had input in the process, which is a reasonable minimum even if for future reference any high appointments would be good to raise in an open space with peers and let sit for a little longer in case there are qualms like this to resolve. It's pretty obvious there was a schism of opinion here, which could have been resolved with a more thorough initial appointment process initially, or working out some of these gripes internally as the issue has left Globe with an unusually large non-voting section. Its not nice to see current peers and core members openly express lack of confidence in each other in a process like this and it suggests a deeper communication problem that needs to be worked on. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 09:49, 20 April 2026 (UTC) | |||
== Crystalite13 (Global Sysop)== | == Crystalite13 (Global Sysop)== | ||