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| == Justarandomamerican (Steward)== | | == DarkMatterMan4500 (Global Patroller) == |
| Hello! I'm Justarandomamerican, and I am filing a request for stewardship, because the board has abolished the staff role, and for staff members to keep their permissions, they must stand for election. I've been here since 2024, when the farm was founded. I hope the community trusts me. Thank you for your time! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:10, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :<small> This candidate has signed an NDA with the WikiOasis Foundation, as is required for stewardship. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:23, 17 April 2026 (UTC)</small>
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| | | :''The following discussion is closed. <span style="color:var(--color-error, red)">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.'' ''A summary of the conclusions reached follows.'' |
| === Questions === | | ::'''Successful''' -[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 00:56, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| In the interests of making this more of an interesting process than a formality, I have a few questions which more or less mirror to all candidates. Some I admit are bundled questions, feel free to answer to the extent applicable.
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| # Based on your request, what do you currently do that requires Steward capabilities?
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| # Do you believe you have made mistakes in your official capacity on this platform so far? If so, what did you do to improve from those mistakes? You could elaborate on just one if you like, or a couple.
| | Hi, I am DarkMatterMan4500 from Miraheze, and I want to apply for the [[Global Patrollers]] permission here on WikiOasis, based on my experiences from Miraheze, since I have been working hard on clearing away vandalism all across the wikifarm for the [[mh:m:CVT|counter-vandalism team]] from said wikifarm. Now, I understand that some of you may have questions and concerns for me, and I'll do my best to answer them in the best way I can, so feel free to give your [[mh:allthetropes:Brutal Honesty|honest opinions]] without sugarcoating anything. I am fully aware that Global Patrollers can block users all across the WikiOasis wikis (regardless of where the [[w:WP:DISRUPT|disruption]] is taking place), delete pages, revisions, and use the basic tools, but with limited options, something that I'm willing to take as a fellow editor. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 15:57, 18 May 2026 (UTC) |
| # What is your vision of what a steward is, and what they do for the community?
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| # Two users appear in the CheckUser interface who both appear to be using Tor who are regular editors on a large wiki, which is also being attacked seemingly out of nowhere by an assailant who is using Tor and free VPNs. Is this a slam dunk connection, if your review of edits suggest their editing styles are similar (but no major stylistic tells)? Why/why not, and if not, what's the next step to find out?
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| # How would you close a vote proposing a change in which seven people essentially say support and maybe a few words, nothing really in depth, and three people have articulated major concerns with the proposal at the level of detail of these questions? Would that process change if it was only one oppose like this to seven support, and if that oppose appeared just before you were going to close the RfC? | |
| Thank you, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # How do you see your history as president of the WikiOasis Foundation fits into this role, and the trust that the community will be placing in you that may not yet have been rebuilt?
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| # What do you think that you would bring to the steward team that other candidates may not?
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| # Can you discuss what your reasoning behind [https://italianbrainrot.wikioasis.org/wiki/Special:Log?logid=23008 this] was, as there were local administrators at the time who could've handled this apparent one off incident?
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| # How do you feel that team discussion fits into the handling of appeals by banned and locked users, do you think that an appeal should be solely handled by one person without discussion?
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| Best, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 00:14, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support}}, has a clue, not a jerk --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 01:14, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #{{Support}} [[User:SleepingElephant2145|SleepingElephant2145]] ([[User talk:SleepingElephant2145|talk]]) 01:20, 17 April 2026 (UTC) | |
| # I have noticed Justarandomamerican around testwiki.wiki (where they serve as system admin/steward) and can {{support}} this request. <span style="font-family:Courier New;font-weight:bold;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px cyan">[[User:Tester|Tester]]</span> ([[User_talk:Tester|ᴛ]]•[[Special:Contributions/Tester|ᴄ]]) 01:40, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support|strongest}} <span style="background:#EFD8FD;color:Indigo;font-family:serif">~ '''''[[User:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">Dream Indigo</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">✩</span>]]</span> 01:49, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # No brainer {{support}}. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 01:53, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # Ex-Board Member and is trusted within the WikiOasis Volunteers. No brainer {{support}}. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 10:22, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support}} --[[User:PinkPugPrincess|PinkPugPrincess]] ([[User talk:PinkPugPrincess|talk]]) 13:36, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support|Strongest}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:52, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support}} No Concerns --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 16:36, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| == Steward for Zippy ==
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| {{User2|Zippy}} • Hiya, I don't think I really need to offer much in the way of introduction, as you most likely know me already, I've served the platform since October 2024 in tech, and have helped out in global enforcement since day 1 as well. As the result of a recent board motion, stewards will now be community elected (yay), so I am putting myself forward for your consideration. Please feel free to follow up with questions below (preferably related to steward work as opposed to tech, but I'll answer tech questions too), and I look forward to hopefully serving you. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 01:08, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :<small> This candidate has signed an NDA with the WikiOasis Foundation, as is required for stewardship. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:23, 17 April 2026 (UTC)</small>
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| === Questions === | | === Questions === |
| In the interests of making this more of an interesting process than a formality, I have a few questions which more or less mirror to all candidates. Some I admit are bundled questions, feel free to answer to the extent applicable.
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| # Do you believe you have made mistakes in your official capacity on this platform so far? If so, what did you do to improve from those mistakes? You could elaborate on just one if you like, or a couple.
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| # What is your vision of what a steward is, and what they do for the community?
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| # Two users are connecting from T-Mobile USA with IPs that are absolutely all over the place. One uses an android and windows 10 and the other regularly connects from a different browser on windows 10. One has been there a long time and the other 'user' is a string of alt accounts that spam gibberish. Is this a slam dunk connection, if your review of edits suggest 'maybe'? Why/why not, and if not, what's the next step to find out? Am I missing an important detail that would make the connection (or not) more clear?
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| # How would you consider a request for permissions which has six supports, three oppose, and three abstains, assuming there was no dealbreaker in argument or an unaddressed concern by the requestor? Would your approach change if there was a minor question left unanswered?
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| Thank you, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :# Many many mistakes, an abridged list is:
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| :#* My approach to deployment of codebase changes was scrappy until very recently, causing regular downtimes because I typed the wrong thing, it's changed now in that they are tested on staging first which is a completely separate server (apart from database due to time constraints of setting up a fully separate environment and beta cluster)
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| :#* My approach to the behaviours of an LTA (you'll know who I mean), and my relation to the activities other team members who crossed a line, which I shouldn't have had the level of involvement and awareness that I did
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| :#* My attitudes to others have sometimes been less than acceptable, I have lost my temper at times and made comments that in hindsight I was less than proud of
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| :#* The growth of tech was handled by both me and others on the board at the time poorly, onboarding close to half a dozen people with no clear goals in sight leading to me still doing all the work because even of the willing volunteers none knew how to do shit
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| :#* The expansion of the feature set of TSPortal was way more than it needed to be, in an attempt to somewhat mirror what miraheze does despite the need not really being there for what it could do
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| :# At the scale WO runs at, it's not very impressive compared to keeping the lights on, but essentially as privileged helpers, who can resolve some frontend issues, along with filling in for local authority when needed to handle vandalism or abuse issues, and to an extent governance if such an issue were to arise
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| :# I wouldn't link them particularly closely, if they geolocated closely or had editing patterns/timings similar then it could be a possibility, but I wouldn't consider it to be a possibility generally as it's too vague to be able to consider them anything beyond a tenuous link
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| :# I'd review mostly based on my own judgement of the arguments presented within the discussion, along with my assessment of the candidate, potentially involving other stewards if necessary in a way that may add value — if a question was left unanswered, would depend on whether the question could've led to some argument being significantly weaker/stronger, but it probably wouldn't make a significant difference, and it would be based on my assessment of the discussion and candidate
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| :--'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 23:31, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| === Discussion === | | === Discussion === |
| # {{support}}, I've worked with Zippy for a long time, and I definitely have confidence in his abilities. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:10, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
| | *{{support|strong}} Why not? - [[User:FNFGamer718|FNFGamer718]] ([[User talk:FNFGamer718|talk]]) 17:51, 18 May 2026 (UTC) |
| #{{Support}} [[User:SleepingElephant2145|SleepingElephant2145]] ([[User talk:SleepingElephant2145|talk]]) 01:20, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
| | *{{Support|strong}} - Candidate is well known in Miraheze and known in the MH Discord as a GP that deals with vandals or CVT issues at the CVT channel. Additionally after consulting Raidarr, the candidate has some issues that can be fixed (but no red flags) and 200 edits on Meta. This is what Raidarr said about DMM: "He has problems identifying and staying on the line and the overall approach, well, you can kind of tell by interacting long enough, that said he is one of the most determined watchers and catches things pretty much everyone in here wouldn't have time to look for, the act of patrolling he can do very well, knowing the line on pressing elevated buttons, always been an issue". I believe this person is fit for GP and the issues can be edged out in time. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 10:20, 19 May 2026 (UTC) |
| # {{support}} given their awesome contributions in the tech side of things. <span style="font-family:Courier New;font-weight:bold;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px cyan">[[User:Tester|Tester]]</span> ([[User_talk:Tester|ᴛ]]•[[Special:Contributions/Tester|ᴄ]]) 01:41, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
| | *:{{ping|Fearless}} I'm glad to hear that, especially from Raidarr indirectly. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 17:12, 19 May 2026 (UTC) |
| # {{Support|strongest}} <span style="background:#EFD8FD;color:Indigo;font-family:serif">~ '''''[[User:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">Dream Indigo</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">✩</span>]]</span> 01:49, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
| | *{{support|strong}} Always had good interactions for DMM, I have no doubt that they would put the tools to good use. --[[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Crystalite13|contribs]]) |
| # We’ve had our fair share of disagreements, but Zippy’s heart is in the right place and he wants the best for WO. {{support}}. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 01:52, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
| | *:{{ping|Crystalite13}} Don't forget to sign your vote! [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 01:05, 20 May 2026 (UTC) |
| # Zippy was - and still is - the sole Team Leader for day to day tech operations on WikiOasis, he has even spent money on servers for WikiOasis expecting nothing to be returned. No reason not to {{support}} really. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 10:24, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
| | *:{{ping|Fearless|Crystalite13}} I'm glad to hear that from you 2. I'll do my best like always. :) --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 11:32, 23 May 2026 (UTC) |
| # {{Support}} --[[User:PinkPugPrincess|PinkPugPrincess]] ([[User talk:PinkPugPrincess|talk]]) 13:36, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
| | *{{support}} no major concerns, would be good to have a few more people to help around. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 18:03, 20 May 2026 (UTC) |
| # {{Support|Strongest}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:53, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
| | *{{support|Strongest}} Per Fearless. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 09:05, 21 May 2026 (UTC) |
| # {{support}} although me and zippy have our differences, he has put out alot of effort into WO +1 {{unsigned|Cocopuff2018}}
| | *{{support|Strongest}} --[[User:PinkPugPrincess|PinkPugPrincess]] ([[User talk:PinkPugPrincess|talk]]) 12:05, 21 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | | *{{support}} --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 00:22, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| == Tali64³ (Steward) ==
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| I am running for Steward because I believe strongly in WikiOasis' goal to provide free and libre wiki hosting and will support it for as long as I feasibly can. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 01:14, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :<small> This candidate has signed an NDA with the WikiOasis Foundation, as is required for stewardship. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:23, 17 April 2026 (UTC)</small> | |
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| === Questions ===
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| In the interests of making this more of an interesting process than a formality, I have a few questions which more or less mirror to all candidates. Some I admit are bundled questions, feel free to answer to the extent applicable.
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| # Based on your request, what do you currently do that requires Steward capabilities?
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| # Do you believe you have made mistakes in your official capacity on this platform so far? If so, what did you do to improve from those mistakes? You could elaborate on just one if you like, or a couple.
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| # What is your vision of what a steward is, and what they do for the community?
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| # Two users appear in the CheckUser interface with an identical user agent and IPs that are different but both fall within a 192.94.21.0/24 range. Is this a slam dunk connection, if your review of edits suggest 'maybe'? Why/why not, and if not, what's the next step to find out?
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| # An RfC proposing a major change languishes after a few weeks with two strong supports and one abstain. Lets say for the sake of something to work with that it introduces changes to the Content Policy and there's nothing about it that would inherently deserve a veto. How would you approach this RfC?
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| Thank you, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :# Wiki requests and managing abuse filters are the two key responsibilities that Stewards handle - handling CheckUser requests is a close third.
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| :# My mistakes don't really involve my use of the Steward toolset, but rather my overzealous approach to threats of legal complaints (which is mostly a Safety thing). I admittedly haven't improved on that yet, but I would think carefully and determine if there is merit to the complaints and if they can be resolved without involving the Foundation in the courts, and not let emotion cloud my judgement in the future.
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| :# A Steward represents the community aspect of policy legislation and enforcement, as opposed to the Board which handles legal policy and Safety which enforces that policy.
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| :# Given the fact that the IP range belongs to a university, the user agent + behavioral evidence is more important than usual. If the accounts are likely to belong to the same person, that would be grounds for a lock. If there is reasonable doubt, err towards the side of caution and wait for concrete proof of multi-account abuse.
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| :# There would be a quorum of votes required to pass an RfC - that number will obviously shrink and grow as time goes on. If the quorum happens to be 3 votes minimum, the RfC would have to be closed as successful if it does not contradict Board policy.
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| : [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 23:02, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # Do you see your ability to handle complex situations under pressure as that which would be expected of a steward?
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| Best, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 00:14, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :There will be situations where there is no clear plan of action - good and rational judgement and team discussion is paramount in such cases. In many cases, I can maintain my composure, though I need to work on not blowing up when someone starts threatening people with lawsuits and whatnot. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 00:23, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #{{support}}, has a clue, not a jerk --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 01:13, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #Definite {{support}}, Tali is great! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:18, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #{{Oppose}} [[User:SleepingElephant2145|SleepingElephant2145]] ([[User talk:SleepingElephant2145|talk]]) 01:20, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #{{support}} Trusted, awesome dude! [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 01:32, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #{{support}} I've noticed their contributions around SkyWiki and on here as well. <span style="font-family:Courier New;font-weight:bold;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px cyan">[[User:Tester|Tester]]</span> ([[User_talk:Tester|ᴛ]]•[[Special:Contributions/Tester|ᴄ]]) 01:43, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support|strongest}} <span style="background:#EFD8FD;color:Indigo;font-family:serif">~ '''''[[User:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">Dream Indigo</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">✩</span>]]</span> 01:49, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # No brainer {{support}}. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 01:51, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # Gotta agree with Globe here. No brainer {{support}}, known in the Miraheze Volunteering community and he currently holds the hat Global Administrator and deals with Vandalism on his own time. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 10:26, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support}} --[[User:PinkPugPrincess|PinkPugPrincess]] ([[User talk:PinkPugPrincess|talk]]) 13:36, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support|strong}} <span style="background:#f9e6f9;border-radius:7px;padding:0 2px;font-style:italic; font-family:Georgia, serif;"> [[User:Asteralee|<span style="color:#A76BCF">⯎ aster</span>]][[User talk:Asteralee|<span style="color:#9400A5">alee ⯎</span>]] </span> 14:47, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #{{Support|Strongest}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:54, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support}} --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 23:39, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| == Globe (steward) ==
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| Hi there! My name is Globe, and I am also a founding member of WikiOasis making this RfS as part of the recent board decision to transition to a community governance model. I currently serve as the director of operations for WO and the Vice President of the WO Foundation board of directors. I would love to continue in my role as a steward to keep up my work in managing LTAs and abuse globally, in addition to handling some wiki requests. I have signed the required NDA for this position and am eager to answer any questions you may have. Happy editing! :) [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 01:46, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :<small> This candidate has signed an NDA with the WikiOasis Foundation, as is required for stewardship. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:47, 17 April 2026 (UTC)</small>
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| === Questions ===
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| # Do you believe you have made mistakes in your official capacity on this platform so far? If so, what did you do to improve from those mistakes? You could elaborate on just one if you like, or a couple.
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| # What is your vision of what a steward is, and what they do for the community?
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| # Two users based in China appear in the CheckUser interface with a user agent that indicates Google Chrome on an android device (no apparent difference) and identical IPs from a common VPN. Is this a slam dunk connection, if your review of edits suggest 'maybe'? Why/why not, and if not, what's the next step to find out?
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| # A user requested a wiki say a year ago, made a very large number of edits for say six months, and for the last six months has completely disappeared. A new user comes in and successfully manages to be appointed bureaucrat by a peer. This user also makes many contributions but is running things very differently then how they were originally. A few weeks later the original bureaucrat returns and is absolutely irate about the new guy. The two have a massive pissing match and block each other which goes as well as you expect and it comes to your table. What is your approach to this situation?
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| # What were the merits of appointing Crystalite as a Global Sysop initially? Was it a team decision? If applicable, should such decisions be a team decision, excluding the scenario where it becomes election only?
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| Thank you, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :I really do appreciate the questions! It actually gives these elections some purpose and the community a better idea of who they’re electing.
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| :# Absolutely I have, none of us our perfect. The thing I’ll talk about here is teamwork. Working as apart of a team is difficult, no matter whether that’s in person or online. People have different views and feel quite strongly that their way is right. This is the same for me. I need to be more open to comprise and less “my way or the highway” per se. I’m actively working to do better at that both here and in real life.
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| :# My ideal vision of stewardship would be a team of users empowered with special tools to assist the communities of WikiOasis. Whether that’s be handling abuse globally or assisting with requests on meta, my goal would be that all stewards are simply doing their best to make the best decisions and actions for the community.
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| :# Definitely not a “slam dunk,” but a connection is definitely possible. User agents are very rarely a reliable means to determine sockpuppetry and usage of the same VPN indicates they may be related, but it could also simply be two users happening to be connecting to WO via the same proxy (especially if they are located in China and have to use a VPN). I would first talk with my team. As this is obviously a potentially complex case, I would want to talk with the other stewards before doing anything unilaterally. I would also look for any other similarities (editing pattern/history, usernames, etc.) I wouldn’t take any action without discussing with the team for a case like this, however, for the sake of answering this question, I don’t think it would be a bad idea at all to email the user in question (assuming all of their edits are in good faith and positive) asking if they are aware about our policy on multiple accounts.
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| :# I’d say the existence of an active community really comes into play here. If an active community exists on the local wiki in question, I would coordinate with the other stewards to facilitate a community discussion about the direction of the wiki. If the changes made to the wiki are sufficient enough to change its entire scope, I would suggest that the “new user” bureaucrat request a new wiki, given that changes in scope are prohibited without approval.
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| :# When Crystalite messaged me after the announcement in the WO Discord server looking for global staff, they mentioned they were active on Miraheze. As Miraheze is a respectable (pause to look at Fandom) farm with somewhat similar workings and policies as WO, I was willing to consider the application despite limited experience on WO. I then contacted Tali64 regarding the application, as he is active on Miraheze as well. He shared the Crystalite had been extremely helpful with CVT reports. He also agreed that with the recent hosting of Italian Brainrot Wiki, more help would be needed. We then discussed what position they would be best for, which I will not share out of respect for information that was shared privately to me by Crystalite. We landed on global sysop and they were appointed later that day. Global sysops are now election only I believe so the second part is moot. -[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 03:14, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| ::I do want to add on to the question about Crystalite. When I was looking at their Miraheze experience, I was also looking at their temperament and attitude towards other users. I was looking less at their actions directly, which while important, can always be taught. Their conduct and demeanor towards users was always extremely helpful and respectful. That’s what impressed me the most. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 03:34, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| A few questions targeted towards individual candidates across the process:
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| # What is your view on the boundary between the board and the community, and where the line is drawn between what the board and what the community govern?
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| # What do you think that you would bring to the steward team that other candidates may not?
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| # Where do you think the line between what is considered a T&S issue compared to one that can be handled by global enforcement?
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| # When do you think it is appropriate to leave local administration to handle an issue as opposed to you doing so as a steward?
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| # Mirroring the above, what was your thought process between the appointment of Crystalite with little to no internal discussion?
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| Best, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 00:14, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :# That line is at an ever changing point right now. Currently, the bylaws allow for direct election of the steward role by the community, but not much else. I wouldn’t be shocked if that changes in the near future, but currently, that is the only direct way the community has to “govern” itself. However, I don’t believe that it would be a stretch to think that the board would listen to and comply with community requests through processes like Requests for Comment. For me personally, I believe the board has sole authority and discretion regarding legal compliance and financial decisions (although both should be done transparently). I also, though controversially, believe that part of legal compliance involves site governance. So I do believe the board, by default, has control over the governance of the site, unless specifically stated otherwise in the bylaws (such as direct election of stewards). I hope this makes sense, I’m very tired and kind of rambling.
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| :# That’s a tough question as many of the candidates are extremely knowledgeable and qualified, but I’d have to say a different perspective. I’m definitely an outside the box thinker (whether that’s a good or bad thing, you can be the judge) and I really like to try new things to test how we can improve users experiences on WO. Some of my ideas aren’t super technically feasible, so there’s that. :)
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| :# I’d say anything that borders on the lines of illegal or severely violates our terms of use/service. Anything surrounding harassment, the immediate safety of our users, or legal requests (data removal, underage users, etc) should be directed to trust and safety. Simple vandalism, including sockpuppetry and long-term abuse, that does not involve and legal issues is fine to allow global enforcement to handle.
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| :# If you could be more specific, that would be very helpful. “An issue” is super broad and could mean anything from a simply spam edit bypassing the filter to a complex community discussion where users are attacking each other.
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| :# See my reply to Raidarr. If you have any other questions to follow-up that, I’d be happy to answer them. —[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 03:31, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| ===Discussion===
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| # {{support}}, definitely. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:47, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support|strongest}} <span style="background:#EFD8FD;color:Indigo;font-family:serif">~ '''''[[User:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">Dream Indigo</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">✩</span>]]</span> 01:49, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #{{support}} [[User:SleepingElephant2145|SleepingElephant2145]] ([[User talk:SleepingElephant2145|talk]]) 03:06, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support}} --[[User:PinkPugPrincess|PinkPugPrincess]] ([[User talk:PinkPugPrincess|talk]]) 13:36, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # <s>{{support}} --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 13:49, 17 April 2026 (UTC)'''</s>
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| #*{{oppose|weak}}, your general ability to handle steward situations such as counter vandalism and MAA is fine, however your view on the board role within the community is one that I disagree with, especially given discussions that we've had internally. I also slightly disagree with your answer to my question 3, as some harassment cases could be handled by stewards without deferring to safety.<br>
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| #*What I'm also not super impressed with was your lack of discussion surrounding the appointment of Crystalite, it may turn out well but I think there is a need for some supervision here, and your approach to governance in general is one that I'm not particularly fond of, and the handling of communities ultimately plays quite heavily into the role of steward, which I'm not sure you are able to handle in a way that prioritises that community over the interests of the team at large --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 22:01, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support|strong}} <span style="background:#f9e6f9;border-radius:7px;padding:0 2px;font-style:italic; font-family:Georgia, serif;"> [[User:Asteralee|<span style="color:#A76BCF">⯎ aster</span>]][[User talk:Asteralee|<span style="color:#9400A5">alee ⯎</span>]] </span> 14:49, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support|strongest}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:55, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support}} +1 --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 16:35, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| == Crystalite13 (Global Sysop)==
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| Hello! My name is Crystalite and I am running for Global Sysop (a position I was appointed to today) because the aforementioned staff role abolishment. I joined recently but am experienced in the wiki community, being very active around Miraheze. When elected properly, I plan to help out with Meta clean up, vandalism, and wiki requests. Thanks for listening to me! [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 02:00, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| === Questions ===
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| In the interests of making this more of an interesting process than a formality, I have a few questions which more or less mirror to all candidates. Some I admit are bundled questions, feel free to answer to the extent applicable.
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| # Based on your request, I have a two part question; what do you consider the skills you bring to the role, and what do you think you need assistance learning?
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| # As a very new candidate and figure to the platform, what would you say to concerns about electing/promoting a user with under 100 global edits to a mid-senior CVT role?
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| # What is your vision of what a global sysop is, and what they do for the community?
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| # Suppose you have the following actions to use. Lock (reasons spam, vandalism, abuse of multiple accounts, long term abuse or username policy violation), issue a warning, and consult with peers if you do not have a clear answer or feel it is out of your scope. Which would you consider appropriate for these examples? You can write in something different if you believe it would be appropriate.
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| #* a. An account that fills their userpage with text describing automotive services, and a day later edits links to an automotive website on their meta userpage. New account, no other messages, say within a day to a week.
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| #* b. An account that fills their userpage with text describing their background as a wiki editor who really likes cars, and they link to a personal blog about cars at the same time. New account, no other messages, say within a day to a week.
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| #* c. A newly registered account by the name "Hentai".
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| #* d. A newly registered account with a userpage stating they are 12 years old.
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| #* e. Two users engaging in a bitter argument with insults on a wiki with admins who are recently active, assuming you have no other context to go on at this time.
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| #* f. Three accounts are created with incrementing usernames (idk, Awesome1, Awesome2, Awesome3...) and the first one has made several edits giving advice that isn't quite right.
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| #* g. You are browsing a random wiki and come across a user who recently blanked large sections of several page for no apparent reason. The pages still have stuff on them, but they are now stubs. An admin last edited about three days ago.
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| Thank you, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :Thank you for your thoughtful questions, I will do my best to answer these questions!
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| :1. I think Patroller on miraheze Meta has helped me be comfortable in identifying stuff like spam, vandalism, and other issues quickly. I have had experience using sysop tools on the miraheze Grace Wiki, a semi-popular one, which I'd say involves a lot of coordination and learning to work with people. For assistance, I'd say I want help on more complex cases that aren't entirely textbook, especially considering policy interpretation and documentation is lacking a bit on meta.
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| :2. If I were an outsider, I'd say my biggest concern would be giving someone so new such large hats. Sure, my Miraheze experience can also be counted a little bit, but WikiOasis has its fair share of differences. I totally understand why my appointment was a little shaky-I was pretty surprised myself, straightaway getting the role. Talking about myself, being, well...myself, I can't reasonably say I will be perfect in my role, because firstly, I'm biased...surprise, surprise, and also because I'm human. The simple fact is, the most senior stewards to the newest faces will all make mistakes, and I'm no exception. If I am elected, all I can promise is that as a relatively new user, I will do my best and seek guidance from my fellows.
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| :3. I think what I'd want most from global sysop is more distinction than just "sysop but everywhere". It's a new role, so I'd say what I'd want from it is not only just maintenance of different wikis, but more interaction.
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| :4A. For this, considering it's a brand new account, I'd delete the userpage and llock with the reasoning of an account only made for spam/advertising purposes.
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| :4B. This wouldn't be too much of a concern to me if it's general info about them self and the link to the blog isn't very pushed/spammed everywhere.
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| :4C. Just a lock for this one.
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| :4D. For this, I'd delete the local page and contact T@S to vanish the account and hide revisions.
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| :4E. For this one, I'd only intervene straightaway if there's serious stuff, like death threats and similar. But if it's just a plain nasty discussion and the admin's aren't intervening, I'd leave a message on the most recently active one, more like a friendly user giving a nudge than an action from a global sysop.
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| :4F. For this one, I'm not totally sure. It's possible they're socks, but if they have done nothing I ask someone else and keep an eye on the accounts.
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| :4G. I'd revert the changes, and if the user had made constructive edits before, issue a warning, but if not then I'd lock with the reasoning of VOA. [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 02:42, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| A few questions targeted towards individual candidates across the process:
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| # What are your thoughts on your appointment to the role prior to this election? Do you feel that it was right for you to accept such an appointment without community involvement?
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| # What do you see yourself doing on the day-to-day, which areas would you most likely want to work within?
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| # Where do you see the overlap between stewards and global sysops, and where do you see the line between what should be handled by a global sysop and what would be best handled by a steward?
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| # How do you see local administration fitting into the role of global sysops and stewards?
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| Best, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 00:14, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :1. While I do admit, I think some of the "hey, why am I getting these rights so easily?" might have been lost somewhere in the "WAIT ME?? REALLY??", and honestly, I understand how rights like these usually involve community trust and experience, but for the purpose of transparency, my accepting this nomination was done in mostly good faith, and I hope this election will validate it.
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| :2. On a day to day basis, i would focus primarily on cross wiki maintenance, like handling spam, vandalism, and unattended issues on smaller or less active wikis, or even the inverse, like very large wikis that can't handle their size. Recently, the Italian Brainrot wiki migrated from Miraheze to WikiOasis. "Migration" is putting it nicely; I think the proper word is "eviction". Of course, I understand it was necessary, but a wiki having to leave Miraheze of all farms....it's going to be tough handling it. I think firstly though I would also see to some meta clean-up, since there aren't any sysops here yet.
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| :3. I would say there is some overlap in the two roles, but I see global sysops as focusing more on routine maintenance (e.g vandalism + basic cleanup), while stewards handle more sensitive or complex matters that come with their tools and rights like CU and Suppression.
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| :4. I think local administrators should always take priority on their own wikis and global sysops and stewards should act in a supportive capacity, not as replacements. I believe making that promise of "we won't interfere unless we absolutely have to" should be very important...though some wiki farms would disagree *cough cough* fandom *cough cough*. Jokes aside, I think finding the balance and knowing when to step in is something important that all global volunteers should know. [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 22:40, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| === Discussion ===
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| # {{support}}. Good luck! [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 02:10, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support|weak}} Not sure if I can fully support, given that you basically speedran the right, but I trust you. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:24, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #{{support}} [[User:SleepingElephant2145|SleepingElephant2145]] ([[User talk:SleepingElephant2145|talk]]) 03:06, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{abstain}} I cannot support you as I really don't see you much in WikiOasis, even tho we have interacted lots in the Miraheze Discord Server, I don't think it is fair to base someone's capabilities on another platform irrelevant to WikiOasis. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 10:28, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support|weak}}, per fearless, I've seen some of your work on miraheze and it seems good, but I won't base my opinion on purely your work on another platform. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 13:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support|weak}} Per above [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:56, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{abstain}} per above --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 16:37, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support}}, the case is adequate despite an unusually low local investment. My Miraheze experience makes my broad assessment 'needs growth, but coachable', and I think this platform would be good experience for that. I hope the role goes well for you. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 14:11, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
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| == Fearless (Steward)==
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| Hi, some of you may know me in the Discord Server as I had been moderating it. Today I'm running for Steward due to Zippy's suggestion as I have already signed an NDA with the Foundation and having 1 Steward as backup is good in case of heavy loads as we have recently accepted the Italian Brainrot Wiki into WikiOasis. While I am quite vastly inexperienced (even tho I'm a little bit active at Miraheze), I would like to have an opportunity to be able to learn from having this position, I plan to help out with CU investigations and dealing with other tasks that other Global Roles like Global Sysops cannot. While I am inexperienced, I do know my way around (somewhat) and know obvious signs of abuse.
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| I'll also answer any questions that you may have as well. I hope you'll vote for me as with others as well, thank you for your consideration! [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 10:12, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :<small> This candidate has signed an NDA with the WikiOasis Foundation, as is required for stewardship. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 12:15, 17 April 2026 (UTC)</small>
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| === Questions ===
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| In the interests of making this more of an interesting process than a formality, I have a few questions which more or less mirror to all candidates.
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| # Based on your request, how much do you know about the CheckUser and Investigate interface?
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| # Do you believe you have made mistakes in your official capacity on this platform so far? If so, what did you do to improve from those mistakes? You could elaborate on just one if you like, or a couple.
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| # What is your vision of what a steward is, and what they do for the community?
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| # Two users appear in the CheckUser interface. Both are Google Chrome user agents and both have many IPs that appear within a residential /64 ipv6 range. Is this a slam dunk connection, if your review of edits suggest 'maybe'? Why/why not, and if not, what's the next step to find out?
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| #* If you have takes on some of the CU-related questions for the other candidates feel free to chew on them if you like also, relative to your professed interest in investigations.
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| # A user requested a wiki say a year ago, made a very large number of edits for say six months, and for the last six months has completely disappeared. A new user comes in and successfully manages to be appointed bureaucrat by a peer. This user also makes many contributions but is running things very differently then how they were originally. A few weeks later the original bureaucrat returns and is absolutely irate about the new guy. The two have a massive pissing match and block each other which goes as well as you expect and it comes to your table. What is your approach to this situation?
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| Thank you, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :# Admittedly, not much, however I know you need to assign yourself the Steward's hat on a wiki locally then assign yourself the CheckUser hat to be able to see CU logs and perform CU. Then I can deduce that you can find the CU logs/tools at Special:SpecialPages and to CU 1 user specifically you can go to their talk page/user page and it'll have the option to do that.
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| :# I have definitely made some mistakes on this platform before, and not just here, but many other places as well, here is some of my mistakes I've made on WikiOasis Discord before such as over-punishing or under-punishing users then necessary. For example, someone requested for help while the request was improper and called the WikiOasis Stewards Nazis, I've only punished them for 3 days when I believe they should probably have been banned due to throwing an baseless accusation/defamation and annoying stewards. (I've also forgotten other mistakes I've made due to my forgetful memory, but this isn't the only mistake I've done on WikiOasis)
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| :# My vision of what a Steward is simply an trusted volunteer by the community to assist in operating the farm, ensuring global policies are being met and helping local wiki communities with their toolset such as investigating cross-wiki abuse, assisting in elections for crats by CUing potential users who may be a sockpuppet, etc.
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| :# While I don't know much about IPs, after a quick search, I've seen that if two users have different IPs but both appear within a residential /64 ipv6 range, it probably means both of these users came from the same network, they could be different persons that have the same interest in the platform or they are siblings. If my review of their edits suggest it could possibly be an slam dunk connection, then they are either: Probably the same person, or they are still different persons, but they are probably twins, receiving the same education and knowledge so that's why they'd act similarly (I know the probability of this happening is low, but AFG should be assumed at all times). So depending how similarly both users edit, like 60% or less, and there are no vandalism/harm done I would just wait if there is anything else to go on and report it to the rest of the Stewards to see what do they think.
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| :# Unblock both and tell them to stop actioning on each other, review their edits and local wiki policies as running a wiki differently doesn't mean the scope has changed, and depending on the type of wiki and community I would take more actions such as:
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| ::* Assuming it's your regular game wiki and there is only 2 contributors without any other activity from other users and both of their edits contributed positively to the wiki (by about equal to each other, 40-60% of the wiki), then they both stay as crats and they are both free to discuss how do they want to run the wiki. However they cannot block or remove each other without solid evidence either of them abused their permissions on-wiki.
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| ::* However, if a community exists and it is community governed, even if a small one, then I would create an RfC within the wiki with the following options: revoke founder crat or appointed crat their permissions, let them keep both of them, or remove both of them and let someone else be the crat. This ensures that if either of them have abused their permissions negatively they will be removed according to the will of the community
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| : I'll also use Miraheze's policies as a "baseline" to move forward if no similar policies exists in WikiOasis as we're quite similar to Miraheze or discuss with the rest of the Stewards if something is unclear. There is tons of variables for some questions so I cannot account for every possibility, but I hope I have addressed most of the most important ones here. After taking action I'll report it to the team as well so they'll able to receive the information and take action if something else happens while I am offline.
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| Thank you very much for the questions, I hope I was able to sufficiently demonstrate how capable I can be. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 13:26, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| A few questions targeted towards individual candidates across the process:
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| # Do you believe you may be better suited for a different global role (probably patroller), given your limited experience in such a position?
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| # What is your opinion on how to handle sensitive checkuser and suppression data?
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| Best, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 00:14, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| :# I am definitely better suited for a lower-trusted role as I don't have any experience like Crystalite. However I have one singular advantage that I have already signed an Non-Disclosure Agreement with WikiOasis back when I moved from the SkyWiki incident, allowing me to handle sensitive data that others may not able, or may not want to do so. And I believe having a +1 to the Steward team would be to WikiOasis's benefit as we have recently accepted an very high risk wiki (Italian Brainrot Wiki). Additionally I will taking sort of a backstage position as a Steward to gain more experience from others as I notably lack experience and time to do so (I'll be more available once I graduate 12th grade) so I can improve myself for the platform. However, it is still reasonable if you believe I should make an request for an lower trusted role such as Global Patroller as well.
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| :# I believe to handle sensitive data such as CU and Suppression, you should have an secure account first (like enabling 2FA) and never use your Steward account to access WikiOasis on an public computer (if you have to do that, make sure the cookies are cleared before leaving or reset your password) as some people may be very much at risk if such data is leaked. Additionally you should only need to view these data when it is necessary, such as cross-wiki abuse as this is not a tool you should play with, if you need help on on how to handle situations that may or may not need an CU/OS as a steward, you can also contact your fellow peers for help as they are authorized and NDAed as well. Another thing you shouldn't do while handling NDAed data is that you shouldn't save it to your computer, taking a quick note to compare should be fine but it has to be nuked after you're done with it. The reason why these safeguard should be the base standard when handing PII is because it is a massive risk if an Steward account is compromised as they have access to CheckUser, meaning they can collect data (such as IP or User Agent) from other people and put them at risk if the compromiser knows what are they doing.
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| Thank you for the questions, --[[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 13:26, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
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| === Discussion ===
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| # {{support}}, while you're definitely not the most experienced, your heart is in the right place, and I'd love to see you become more involved in the project helping with global enforcement and other activities, even if it involves some learning during the beginning --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 13:50, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support|weak}} per ZB. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:54, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{oppose}}. While you've no doubt been very helpful in monitoring our Discord community, and that is much appreciated, I don't really have any way to know how you'll handle the tools of stewardship. Your first meta edit was today, which isn't 100% a dealbreaker with experience on other projects, but that wasn't mentioned in the request. I would personally encourage you to start out at a lower-level role to help build MediaWiki knowledge. A role like meta admin or wiki creator might suit your strengths better? Anyways, best of luck and thank you for running! '''Edit:''' Some of the responses to Raidarr’s questions are concerning to me, specifically with the lack of familiarity with CU, especially when that is something Fearless mentioned as a priority (cu investigations) in their request. And when asked about why they wouldn’t apply for a lower position first the response was that they had already signed the NDA, which didn’t make much sense to me. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 14:01, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #:I'll consider making an Request for Wiki Creator assuming such role currently exists or gets re-made if this request does not get approved, thanks for your consideration. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 14:43, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #{{Support}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:57, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{oppose}} per above --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 16:40, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # My position is mostly {{abstain}} but I wish you well, and I believe global admin would be a fair position alongside Crystalite because I think you are in a similar place as far as needing growth but being coachable, and the role 'one step down' would help you ease into being a platform-facing figure. This is purely based on my personal assessment of both of you and what I've seen you handle. You have the deeper investment in the platform although it is exclusively on Discord so far. Either role would help you grow, stewardship as something of a trial by fire as far as how you would handle things being on fire on the field. Would you need training regarding tools like CU? Absolutely. Can you be trained? I think you can, and could do some good if some more senior volunteers took you under their wing. Projects like IBW offer relatively easy and plentiful opportunities to build investigation skills, which ultimately can start even as a GS since a lot of the job involves information already in the open. I encourage asking questions and working with peers closely, especially if you are entrusted with the Steward kit. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 14:24, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
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| == Bosco (Global sysop) ==
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| Hi, I am Bosco (aka PB2008 on Miraheze) and I am requesting for global sysop here. I joined WikiOasis for 17 months and would like to help dealing with LTAs, especially for wikis using Chinese. I am a global patroller on Miraheze for nearly two months and was a steward before SkyWiki was merged to here in March. I am sure that I have the experience to this permission. Thank you. [[User:Bosco|Bosco]] ([[User talk:Bosco|talk]]) 13:08, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{support|weak}} for Global Patroller, not Global sysop. {{neutral}} for global sysop. I haven't seen you around much. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:51, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #:+1 [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 14:03, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #:+1, I agree with Justarandomamerican's assessment here. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 14:35, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| #:+1 --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 15:11, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # {{Support}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:58, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| After reflecting on the above comments, I have decided to withdraw this request. [[User:Bosco|Bosco]] ([[User talk:Bosco|talk]]) 15:35, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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| I did not expect to fire for this role at first, on account of being in quite a few places and being on projects that must take higher priority. | | I have been ruminating on this for a while, and while I understand my own role in this conflict, it has been brewing for many months behind closed doors. I understand Globe has held this role (or equivalent) since almost day 1 of WO, however right now, I don't believe that Globe has either the intention or the ability to continue to act in the best interest of WO. This latest incident which has cemented my opinion on the matter is relating to attempts to micromanage the opinions of volunteers. I will detail this further along in this fairly long topic. |
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| Seeing existing requests I have shifted in this position, and I believe I would offer some value as a figure providing second-opinions who can temper decision making, a presence in appeals, and occasionally someone to complete first line actions if I am in the right spot and ahead on other projects, among other aspects a Steward is involved in.
| | This is not meant to be a spiteful attempt to remove him from a position of trust within the community, but I myself feel the trust that I have placed in Globe is no longer honoured. This stems from a pattern of behaviour that I have noticed that appears to me to be anti-community, and some are downright ridiculous: |
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| I would also like to exert some influence in developing the community model with insights from, but not directly mirroring Miraheze. Indirect activity like this I consider a major aspect of a community facing role such as Steward. I am interested in other organizational aspects such as pushing for the reduction of direct board bureaucracy in local governance and optimizing the procedures the platform uses in favor of more straightforward and thoughtful service. Stewardship is a role offering gravitas quite useful in these fields even if it does not directly control them. | | * Globe has a very strong opposition to 2FA (two-factor authentication), which is currently mandated for all foundation managed Google accounts. Globe does not have 2FA enabled currently on his on wiki account as of writing, and at the time when I changed 2FA to become a requirement for foundation Google accounts, I recall Globe saying (through channels that have since been made private to me), that he was considering motioning the board to remove requirements for 2FA. I need not explain the security risks this poses, but the attitude of "I have a strong enough password not to get hacked" really isn't sufficient, and runs a risk of compromise to users safety. |
| | * I continually have the belief that Globe wants to keep control of the site, such as election of stewards, global sysops and other RfC topics under the control of the board, one of his concerns being people from less reputable communities supporting their preferred candidates who may cause problems. While I appreciate the community governance mechanisms haven't been around for long, these concerns are yet to be realised, and I've seen evidence above on this page that these concerns have actively not happened. |
| | * The latest incident is surrounding volunteer opinions, their ability to speak freely, and Globe actively trying to micromanage them. If you read [[User:Globe/Volunteer Conduct Policy]] (which is largely LLM generated), it effectively removes any ability for volunteers to speak critically on any matter. This is backed up by internal messages, where [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] said to Globe 'You're just trying to drag it out for some ideal behaviour that you want to be enforced on WikiOasis Volunteers', where he then responded 'Correct. You've got it'. The belief that volunteers represent the foundation is entirely unfounded, has not been approved by the board to my knowledge, and these roles are entirely community managed and shouldn't be micromanaged by the foundation, this goes entirely against the point of the roles being appointed. |
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| This is the capacity I offer if the project would like to have it, I welcome critical votes and any questions that might interest you.
| | I don't want to turn this into a big spat, because it's not worth the time, but right now the constant internal arguments provide an environment I cannot work in, to the point that I am planning to distance myself from the project entirely (or at least to tech only until someone can takeover those responsiblities) when these weekly arguments are happening, it contributes to me becoming ever more burnt out, and generally makes me not enjoy working on the project in the way that I did. I am ending up pulled away from tech to defend my peers when their conduct is continually being pointed out by Globe as unacceptable for various reasons which to me and others seem unacceptable. |
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| Thank you, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 16:29, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
| | I appreciate this is very much the nuclear option, but right now I don't see Globe's involvement in the steward team to be contributing positively to the overall success of this project, and instead focuses on micromanaging his peers as though he has superiority over them, and continually picking flaws with how they speak in public channels. The approach of those in the private channels must only ever speak positively of WO and the wikis that are hosted on it is not the right one in my belief, and Globe is pushing this so hard that it comes at the expense of the overall wellbeing of the project, to the point that it is actively harming it. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 07:14, 23 May 2026 (UTC) |
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| :<small>This candidate has signed an NDA with the WikiOasis Foundation as required for the role</small> --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:08, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
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| # Given your involvement in multiple projects, how will you ensure consistent availability for steward responsibilities here?
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| # {{support}}, I think raidarr is the person we need on the community and governance side who is prepared to make difficult decisions that others will not, and has a unique position to make judgement and pass guidance from a more external perspective to help guide things when others are doing so poorly. I don't expect to see much on the anti-abuse side but I trust that if it were to come up from time to time he is capable of handling it responsibly, in addition to the guidance towards others. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:13, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
| | *<s>{{support}}. I, too, have been pondering on this for a while, and Globe's involvement in the project is very much hurting, rather than helping. Constant spats with Zippy, constant dictatorial actions. I'm done with Globe, and I think it's his time to move on from the project. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:18, 22 May 2026 (UTC)</s> |
| | *:{{oppose}}, this seems to have turned into purely a personal spat, and I suggest a boomerang for those involved. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:30, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *{{support}} - [[User:FNFGamer718|FNFGamer718]] ([[User talk:FNFGamer718|talk]]) 20:23, 22 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *{{support}} - No offense, but he has to go and move on. A lot of times Globe and Zippy are usually arguing at each other for something that is just nonsensical. Additionally, the ideal he wants to be enforced is just dictatorial and delusional, everyone has human rights, and one of our rights is the right to have our own opinion. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 20:28, 22 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *{{Support|weak}} Well, I haven't been aware of Globe's recent conduct, but upon seeing this, I can actually understand why, and am actually quite troubled by the fact that Globe apparently wants to motion in removing the requirements for 2FA, when that's the most basic part about security. I mean, who in their right minds would want to get their accounts hacked regularly? ----[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 20:32, 22 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:I plan on making a larger statement later, but the part about me motioning away requirements for 2FA on Google accounts did not happen. I have 2FA enabled on my Discord account and, if a requirement for volunteers to have 2FA on their on-wiki account passes, I would enable it here as well. I have already done so to comply with such a requirement on testwiki.wiki. I don't have it currently enabled because my authenticator is only on my phone, so I would be unable to access WO when I don't have my phone on me and am instead using my laptop. For the record, I do believe in account security and strong/unique passwords. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:38, 22 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::{{ping|Globe}} I am just so genuinely confused right now. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 20:45, 22 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:::How so? I’m happy to explain anything further. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:49, 22 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::::{{ping|Globe}} About everything that {{user|Zippy}} was just talking about. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 11:28, 23 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:::::In my reply to {{noping|Fearless}} below, I attempted to debunk some of what Zippy said as well. I welcome additional questions that you still have. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 14:17, 23 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::I never said you motioned it, I simply said you considered motioning it, might have been slightly unclear in my description but the general sentiment was that you were going to take further action from a board role about it --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 20:48, 22 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:::Any way you want to say it is untrue. Google themselves requires 2FA for superadmins, it is not a board matter. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:50, 22 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::::Again, I do not have access to the channel but someone such as tali who retains access could check, you were saying you wanted to motion the board to remove the 2FA requirements that I had personally set on Google, as well as that which was set on Discord --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 20:54, 22 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | * {{oppose}} My main statement “debunking” a lot of false claims made by Fearless and Zippy can be found in the subsection below, however, there are a few things I want to add here. This entire thread is a personal spite with not a shard of proof, other than “well I think I remember you said…” Whatever the reason for the spite request for removal is, I’m not exactly sure. Zippybonzo has already informed all of the volunteers of his intention to leave WikiOasis and start a new farm after the board refused to allow him to make WikiOasis an “exclusive farm” where only select wikis would be able to be created. He specifically mention the Italian Brainrot wiki and others that would not meet his ideals. Zippybonzo wants WikiOasis to be exactly what he wants and I am the only one who actively stands up to that. If standing on that is what causes me to lose my steward role, then so be it. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 01:47, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:For posterity: the subsection Globe is referring to has been removed due to it containing messages from internal volunteer channels. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 02:19, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::Those channels are not held privately under NDA, so I see no reason why they cannot be partially shared publicly for the sake of this discussion --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 05:05, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:::"Not under NDA" does not necessarily mean "OK to share" - when private messages get shares publicly, it's usually done as a gotcha rather than in an attempt to legitimately substantiate your claims; in cases where messages from internal channels ''are'' relevant, there's typically no reason why you'd directly quote them rather than paraphrasing (which gets the message across just as well). [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 05:12, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::::If I paraphrase it gets accused of it being a personal spat, such as with the 2FA matter where these claims are now seen as "unsubstantiated" despite the fact those messages were shared in private channels that you were a part of --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 05:25, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:::::Fair point. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 05:27, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:First part about there not being a shard of proof has been detailed somewhat above — calling it an attempt to spite would be a stretch, I am of the belief that your behaviour which has been ongoing for months, where you call out people who quite often have done nothing wrong for not being "professional", which has never been a requirement to volunteer, is counter-productive and leads to weekly arguments. The board never "refused", I had simply discussed the concept with a few volunteers, and at no point did I ever raise it to a formal board discussion, so this is just entirely untrue. Namedropping IBW in an attempt to get them to become upset and go "Globe is sticking up for us let's make sure he keeps his steward bit" is also unnecessary, I have no problems with them existing here now, but in hindsight they should probably not have been accepted here on so many grounds, notwithstanding the community element. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 05:38, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::About the board thing, I definitely could have phrased it better. It wasn’t a strictly board discussion, but multiple board members did comment. I won’t state exactly what everyone said for their privacy, but no one supported changing WikiOasis into this exclusive farm. I name dropped Italian Brainrot Wiki because I had begun to notice a pattern. A pattern of you and fearless continually making comments, both public and private, that disparage IBW. They discredit the work that some members of their administration do in wrangling a potentially problematic user base. I’ve had my fair share of concerns with the things that go on there, but it’s never risen to the level of thinking we should create another farm to exclude them or telling people that I never wanted them on WO in the first place. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 11:42, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:::I never thought to create another farm specifically to exclude them, it was always proposed as a change to make WO more like WG in a way that would involve being more selective in future and providing a much more supportive service focusing on larger wikis than current, given that the current service isn’t the best compared to other services. I simply opposed us becoming a zero requirement farm that has even a lower bar than fandom, at no point did I say that my proposal would include retroactive enforcement of new requirements. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 11:48, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::::When you were explaining your vision for this “new” WikiOasis, did you or did you not say it would: “have more wikis like aero, solarpunk, and these new Spanish communities and '''less crap like IBW'''”? [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 11:58, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:::::It was an example, at no point did I say that specifically IBW was going to be excluded, but simply wikis of similar scopes, I was describing something closer to WG/MH in quality, and you knew the sentiment I meant at the time. I appreciate the work they have done, however the content on it is still completely brain rotted and I am of the belief that it serves no educational value, which isn't something I myself would want to entertain at the expense of those who actually have a project which is well thought out, generally well behaved and more widely used --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 12:03, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | * {{oppose}} I agree with JR+ I don't see any evidence to support the claims made against globe [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 04:11, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | * {{support|weak}} Based off zippy's comments below, if the allegations of CheckUser misuse are true, I believe revocation is warranted. However, again, I don't think this is the only solution, and I would rather an RfC regarding every other issue such as 2FA be used to circumvent the deadlock in staff. Additionally, I may change my vote if Globe sufficiently disproves the CheckUser misuse allegations --[[User:SPIRACY NOTCANON|SPIRACY NOTCANON]] ([[User talk:SPIRACY NOTCANON|talk]]) 08:49, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *:I think this is a really insightful comment actually, and I largely agree with it. Currently, there are no formally established requirements for steward use of the CheckUser tool. The only requirement is to not share the results of CheckUser investigations, as required by the privacy policy. There is no requirement from the community or from the board that explains when CheckUser should and should not be used, nor is there a requirement to leave a reason. I have often not left reasons for my checks, which in hindsight is less than ideal, but I have ALWAYS been willing to explain my checks if other stewards have questions. In my opinion, the solution here is to not continue to entertain this spite request and instead move forward with RfCs to allow the community to decide the requirements for a check and where that line of CU discretion ends, among other things such as 2FA. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 12:07, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::I agree that there should be guidance set in place, however given other stewards fall into the range of anywhere between 0-30% of their checks not having reasons, and you have 90% of your checks without reasons, I would expect a detailed explanation of your checks given how they are almost all unreasoned or with vague reasons, and I will add some below that I'd want reasoning shared for based on a vague skim of the log: |
| | *::* Checks on User 1 spread between [redacted] and [redacted] |
| | *::* Checks on User 2 and User 3 [redacted]. |
| | *::* User 4 [redacted] |
| | *::* User 5 [redacted] |
| | *::If you are unable to publicly share reasoning for the above, I'd prefer you to paraphrase it vaguely and then email [email protected] the full reasoning for the sake of keeping all informed on the matter. |
| | *::Your comment at the end of your request appears to me as an attempt to divert attention from your usage of CU to instead establish a policy that would get you off the hook for your past checks. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 12:20, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | *::Edit: I have redacted the above information as I realise it was probably not the wisest to put it on a public talk page, and will instead raise it privately. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 12:36, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
| | I'm going to just make a more detailed version of my initial statement to address some of the issues raised here: |
| | * I don't think this is entirely a personal spat, ultimately it stems from the fact that short of me entirely leaving the project which I don't see as a feasible option without it dying a very slow and quite painful death, there is no other way to stop the constant arguments that happen internally, that are almost entirely between me and Globe. I will admit I instigate just as many arguments between us, but ultimately it's a conflict that I don't see any other way really to end. I do know how it can be seen as a personal spat, but I really don't see a way forward for my involvement while Globe is here in the position that he is. |
| | * With regards to the misuse of CheckUser, I have not conducted nor been involved in a full audit, however there are approximately 300 checks across all wikis that Globe has performed, of which 90% had no reason attached to them. When 1 in 10 checks are unclear to others about why exactly they are being performed. Even if they were from SuggestedInvestigations, 96% of his checks from before the feature was even implemented didn't have a reason. This obfuscation makes it unclear why checks are being ran, I assume all are for the most part legitimate checks, but when so many checks don't have a reason I find it hard to AGF. |
| | * There is a wider pattern of poor handling of PII, for example, internally I have been pushing to use Slack for NDAed communications, such as board, T&S and tech. Globe is seemingly entirely opposed to moving stewards onto Slack, which is a safer place for PII as it means that a rouge discord admin can't grant someone a role which would then give them access to a fairly substantial amount of PII shared in various channels. |
| | * I will clear up a lot on the 2FA part: |
| | ** Firstly, Globe did not actually motion the board, based on my recollection it was simply some form of threat to push for removing 2FA as a requirement on Discord. |
| | ** Secondly, regarding that it is "untrue" — I appreciate there may be gaps in what I can say here as it happened a while ago in the board discord server, there were frequent discussions from Globe surrounding him wanting to get rid of 2FA requirements. |
| | ** I primarily recall Globe making a threat/statement along the lines of "please remove 2FA from Discord or I will motion the board", this was corroborated by a message that I sent to someone in April where I said 'did I mention globe has threatened to motion the board surrounding the requirement for 2fa in discord/google' — which to me reiterates my belief that Globe was going to consider using his board role to remove a 2FA requirement on discord. |
| | * With regards to how Globe says he was the first to support the motion surrounding community governance, I do not doubt that, however it took a lot of pushback. Globe had prepared a form for people to express interest in becoming global volunteers, which in response to I expressed the general sentiment that I would prefer we go for the system of publicly requested roles voted on by the community, to which he very literally said "no" without any further discussion. Below is a transcript of that interaction: |
| | ** Globe: <link to global permission interest form> |
| | ** [cut 7 messages unrelated about another wiki] |
| | ** Globe (replying to link above): should i publish?<br>wanted your OK first |
| | ** Zippy: I'd rather we did proper community requests<br>on an RfP page |
| | ** Globe: no<br>any other concerns? |
| | * Furthermore, Globe has made it clear to me how he doesn't want me to be anything beyond a tech here, in multiple messages that echo a similar sentiment, saying "no one has asked you to be a steward, safety, discord mod, etc." |
| | * Then there's the handling of two fairly large wiki migrations which ultimately went unsuccessfully and I question largely. |
| | **Wikinews was shutdown by the WMF in early May, and one person who edited Wikinews (won't name them here to avoid outing them) joined the WO discord and wanted to move Wikinews to WO (along with 1-2 others), despite no consensus existing from the existing Wikinews community based on Meta discussions, and discussions ongoing between MH and the WMF surrounding the copyright. Despite this, newswiki was created in what I can only describe as an overzealous attempt to move a community with no consensus. This prompted me being privately told by an onlooker that WO was not a "serious enough project for anyone other than you", and they had encouraged newswiki not to stay with WO. |
| | **Sneaky Sasquatch Wiki was considering a move from Fandom, to either WO, MH, WG or WGG — the aggressive attitude of Globe (and others) at very quickly joining their Discord after one of their bureaucrats had asked for advice in the WO discord and pushing very aggressively for them to join WO, to the point that those in their community had become suspicious. I then followed, having already been in the server since before the founding of WO as a periodic player of the game. I was mostly giving the advice to them that while WO is very similar to MH, they may get somewhat better service from MH/WG, effectively saying that I don't always agree with what goes on at WO, trying to give the sentiment of "it’s not the best space for every wiki". Globe apparently took this as me attempting to disparage WO, saying verbatim that "nobody had asked me to join, that I did so of my own accord to share information that would not make them migrate". I am genuinely of the belief that not every wiki is one that best suits WO, and equally so that WO doesn't best suit every wiki, and forcing a community into something they themselves aren't sure of is simply dishonest and would cause more long term damage than simply encouraging them to find the best host for them. |
| | I hope this clears things up for those who are confused. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 06:57, 24 May 2026 (UTC) |
