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DarkMatterMan4500 (Global Patroller)

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Successful -Globe (talk) 00:56, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am DarkMatterMan4500 from Miraheze, and I want to apply for the Global Patrollers permission here on WikiOasis, based on my experiences from Miraheze, since I have been working hard on clearing away vandalism all across the wikifarm for the counter-vandalism team from said wikifarm. Now, I understand that some of you may have questions and concerns for me, and I'll do my best to answer them in the best way I can, so feel free to give your honest opinions without sugarcoating anything. I am fully aware that Global Patrollers can block users all across the WikiOasis wikis (regardless of where the disruption is taking place), delete pages, revisions, and use the basic tools, but with limited options, something that I'm willing to take as a fellow editor. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:57, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Questions

Discussion

Strong support Why not? - FNFGamer718 (talk) 17:51, 18 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support - Candidate is well known in Miraheze and known in the MH Discord as a GP that deals with vandals or CVT issues at the CVT channel. Additionally after consulting Raidarr, the candidate has some issues that can be fixed (but no red flags) and 200 edits on Meta. This is what Raidarr said about DMM: "He has problems identifying and staying on the line and the overall approach, well, you can kind of tell by interacting long enough, that said he is one of the most determined watchers and catches things pretty much everyone in here wouldn't have time to look for, the act of patrolling he can do very well, knowing the line on pressing elevated buttons, always been an issue". I believe this person is fit for GP and the issues can be edged out in time. Fearless (talk) 10:20, 19 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Fearless: I'm glad to hear that, especially from Raidarr indirectly. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:12, 19 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support Always had good interactions for DMM, I have no doubt that they would put the tools to good use. --Crystalite13 (talk) (contribs)
@Crystalite13: Don't forget to sign your vote! Fearless (talk) 01:05, 20 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Fearless and Crystalite13: I'm glad to hear that from you 2. I'll do my best like always. :) --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:32, 23 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Support no major concerns, would be good to have a few more people to help around. --zippybonzo (c • ca) 18:03, 20 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Strongest support Per Fearless. AlPaD (talk) 09:05, 21 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Strongest support --PinkPugPrincess (talk) 12:05, 21 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 00:22, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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Globe (Revocation)

Hello all.

I have been ruminating on this for a while, and while I understand my own role in this conflict, it has been brewing for many months behind closed doors. I understand Globe has held this role (or equivalent) since almost day 1 of WO, however right now, I don't believe that Globe has either the intention or the ability to continue to act in the best interest of WO. This latest incident which has cemented my opinion on the matter is relating to attempts to micromanage the opinions of volunteers. I will detail this further along in this fairly long topic.

This is not meant to be a spiteful attempt to remove him from a position of trust within the community, but I myself feel the trust that I have placed in Globe is no longer honoured. This stems from a pattern of behaviour that I have noticed that appears to me to be anti-community, and some are downright ridiculous:

Globe has a very strong opposition to 2FA (two-factor authentication), which is currently mandated for all foundation managed Google accounts. Globe does not have 2FA enabled currently on his on wiki account as of writing, and at the time when I changed 2FA to become a requirement for foundation Google accounts, I recall Globe saying (through channels that have since been made private to me), that he was considering motioning the board to remove requirements for 2FA. I need not explain the security risks this poses, but the attitude of "I have a strong enough password not to get hacked" really isn't sufficient, and runs a risk of compromise to users safety.
I continually have the belief that Globe wants to keep control of the site, such as election of stewards, global sysops and other RfC topics under the control of the board, one of his concerns being people from less reputable communities supporting their preferred candidates who may cause problems. While I appreciate the community governance mechanisms haven't been around for long, these concerns are yet to be realised, and I've seen evidence above on this page that these concerns have actively not happened.
The latest incident is surrounding volunteer opinions, their ability to speak freely, and Globe actively trying to micromanage them. If you read User:Globe/Volunteer Conduct Policy (which is largely LLM generated), it effectively removes any ability for volunteers to speak critically on any matter. This is backed up by internal messages, where Fearless said to Globe 'You're just trying to drag it out for some ideal behaviour that you want to be enforced on WikiOasis Volunteers', where he then responded 'Correct. You've got it'. The belief that volunteers represent the foundation is entirely unfounded, has not been approved by the board to my knowledge, and these roles are entirely community managed and shouldn't be micromanaged by the foundation, this goes entirely against the point of the roles being appointed.

I don't want to turn this into a big spat, because it's not worth the time, but right now the constant internal arguments provide an environment I cannot work in, to the point that I am planning to distance myself from the project entirely (or at least to tech only until someone can takeover those responsiblities) when these weekly arguments are happening, it contributes to me becoming ever more burnt out, and generally makes me not enjoy working on the project in the way that I did. I am ending up pulled away from tech to defend my peers when their conduct is continually being pointed out by Globe as unacceptable for various reasons which to me and others seem unacceptable.

I appreciate this is very much the nuclear option, but right now I don't see Globe's involvement in the steward team to be contributing positively to the overall success of this project, and instead focuses on micromanaging his peers as though he has superiority over them, and continually picking flaws with how they speak in public channels. The approach of those in the private channels must only ever speak positively of WO and the wikis that are hosted on it is not the right one in my belief, and Globe is pushing this so hard that it comes at the expense of the overall wellbeing of the project, to the point that it is actively harming it. --zippybonzo (c • ca) 07:14, 23 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support. I, too, have been pondering on this for a while, and Globe's involvement in the project is very much hurting, rather than helping. Constant spats with Zippy, constant dictatorial actions. I'm done with Globe, and I think it's his time to move on from the project. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, this seems to have turned into purely a personal spat, and I suggest a boomerang for those involved. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:30, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Support - FNFGamer718 (talk) 20:23, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Support - No offense, but he has to go and move on. A lot of times Globe and Zippy are usually arguing at each other for something that is just nonsensical. Additionally, the ideal he wants to be enforced is just dictatorial and delusional, everyone has human rights, and one of our rights is the right to have our own opinion. Fearless (talk) 20:28, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support Well, I haven't been aware of Globe's recent conduct, but upon seeing this, I can actually understand why, and am actually quite troubled by the fact that Globe apparently wants to motion in removing the requirements for 2FA, when that's the most basic part about security. I mean, who in their right minds would want to get their accounts hacked regularly? ----DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:32, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I plan on making a larger statement later, but the part about me motioning away requirements for 2FA on Google accounts did not happen. I have 2FA enabled on my Discord account and, if a requirement for volunteers to have 2FA on their on-wiki account passes, I would enable it here as well. I have already done so to comply with such a requirement on testwiki.wiki. I don't have it currently enabled because my authenticator is only on my phone, so I would be unable to access WO when I don't have my phone on me and am instead using my laptop. For the record, I do believe in account security and strong/unique passwords. Globe (talk) 20:38, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Globe: I am just so genuinely confused right now. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:45, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
How so? I’m happy to explain anything further. Globe (talk) 20:49, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Globe: About everything that Zippy was just talking about. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:28, 23 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
In my reply to Fearless below, I attempted to debunk some of what Zippy said as well. I welcome additional questions that you still have. Globe (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I never said you motioned it, I simply said you considered motioning it, might have been slightly unclear in my description but the general sentiment was that you were going to take further action from a board role about it --zippybonzo (c • ca) 20:48, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Any way you want to say it is untrue. Google themselves requires 2FA for superadmins, it is not a board matter. Globe (talk) 20:50, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I do not have access to the channel but someone such as tali who retains access could check, you were saying you wanted to motion the board to remove the 2FA requirements that I had personally set on Google, as well as that which was set on Discord --zippybonzo (c • ca) 20:54, 22 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose My main statement “debunking” a lot of false claims made by Fearless and Zippy can be found in the subsection below, however, there are a few things I want to add here. This entire thread is a personal spite with not a shard of proof, other than “well I think I remember you said…” Whatever the reason for the spite request for removal is, I’m not exactly sure. Zippybonzo has already informed all of the volunteers of his intention to leave WikiOasis and start a new farm after the board refused to allow him to make WikiOasis an “exclusive farm” where only select wikis would be able to be created. He specifically mention the Italian Brainrot wiki and others that would not meet his ideals. Zippybonzo wants WikiOasis to be exactly what he wants and I am the only one who actively stands up to that. If standing on that is what causes me to lose my steward role, then so be it. Globe (talk) 01:47, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
For posterity: the subsection Globe is referring to has been removed due to it containing messages from internal volunteer channels. Tali64³ (talk) 02:19, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Those channels are not held privately under NDA, so I see no reason why they cannot be partially shared publicly for the sake of this discussion --zippybonzo (c • ca) 05:05, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
"Not under NDA" does not necessarily mean "OK to share" - when private messages get shares publicly, it's usually done as a gotcha rather than in an attempt to legitimately substantiate your claims; in cases where messages from internal channels are relevant, there's typically no reason why you'd directly quote them rather than paraphrasing (which gets the message across just as well). Tali64³ (talk) 05:12, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
If I paraphrase it gets accused of it being a personal spat, such as with the 2FA matter where these claims are now seen as "unsubstantiated" despite the fact those messages were shared in private channels that you were a part of --zippybonzo (c • ca) 05:25, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point. Tali64³ (talk) 05:27, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

First part about there not being a shard of proof has been detailed somewhat above — calling it an attempt to spite would be a stretch, I am of the belief that your behaviour which has been ongoing for months, where you call out people who quite often have done nothing wrong for not being "professional", which has never been a requirement to volunteer, is counter-productive and leads to weekly arguments. The board never "refused", I had simply discussed the concept with a few volunteers, and at no point did I ever raise it to a formal board discussion, so this is just entirely untrue. Namedropping IBW in an attempt to get them to become upset and go "Globe is sticking up for us let's make sure he keeps his steward bit" is also unnecessary, I have no problems with them existing here now, but in hindsight they should probably not have been accepted here on so many grounds, notwithstanding the community element. --zippybonzo (c • ca) 05:38, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I agree with JR+ I don't see any evidence to support the claims made against globe Cocopuff2018 (talk) 04:11, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to just make a more detailed version of my initial statement to address some of the issues raised here:

I don't think this is entirely a personal spat, ultimately it stems from the fact that short of me entirely leaving the project which I don't see as a feasible option without it dying a very slow and quite painful death, there is no other way to stop the constant arguments that happen internally, that are almost entirely between me and Globe. I will admit I instigate just as many arguments between us, but ultimately it's a conflict that I don't see any other way really to end. I do know how it can be seen as a personal spat, but I really don't see a way forward for my involvement while Globe is here in the position that he is.
With regards to the misuse of CheckUser, I have not conducted nor been involved in a full audit, however there are approximately 300 checks across all wikis that Globe has performed, of which 90% had no reason attached to them. When 1 in 10 checks are unclear to others about why exactly they are being performed. Even if they were from SuggestedInvestigations, 96% of his checks from before the feature was even implemented didn't have a reason. This obfuscation makes it unclear why checks are being ran, I assume all are for the most part legitimate checks, but when so many checks don't have a reason I find it hard to AGF.
There is a wider pattern of poor handling of PII, for example, internally I have been pushing to use Slack for NDAed communications, such as board, T&S and tech. Globe is seemingly entirely opposed to moving stewards onto Slack, which is a safer place for PII as it means that a rouge discord admin can't grant someone a role which would then give them access to a fairly substantial amount of PII shared in various channels.
I will clear up a lot on the 2FA part:
- Firstly, Globe did not actually motion the board, based on my recollection it was simply some form of threat to push for removing 2FA as a requirement on Discord.
- Secondly, regarding that it is "untrue" — I appreciate there may be gaps in what I can say here as it happened a while ago in the board discord server, there were frequent discussions from Globe surrounding him wanting to get rid of 2FA requirements.
- I primarily recall Globe making a threat/statement along the lines of "please remove 2FA from Discord or I will motion the board", this was corroborated by a message that I sent to someone in April where I said 'did I mention globe has threatened to motion the board surrounding the requirement for 2fa in discord/google' — which to me reiterates my belief that Globe was going to consider using his board role to remove a 2FA requirement on discord.
With regards to how Globe says he was the first to support the motion surrounding community governance, I do not doubt that, however it took a lot of pushback. Globe had prepared a form for people to express interest in becoming global volunteers, which in response to I expressed the general sentiment that I would prefer we go for the system of publicly requested roles voted on by the community, to which he very literally said "no" without any further discussion. Below is a transcript of that interaction:
- Globe: <link to global permission interest form>
- [cut 7 messages unrelated about another wiki]
- Globe (replying to link above): should i publish?
  wanted your OK first
- Zippy: I'd rather we did proper community requests
  on an RfP page
- Globe: no
  any other concerns?
Furthermore, Globe has made it clear to me how he doesn't want me to be anything beyond a tech here, in multiple messages that echo a similar sentiment, saying "no one has asked you to be a steward, safety, discord mod, etc."
Then there's the handling of two fairly large wiki migrations which ultimately went unsuccessfully and I question largely.
- Wikinews was shutdown by the WMF in early May, and one person who edited Wikinews (won't name them here to avoid outing them) joined the WO discord and wanted to move Wikinews to WO (along with 1-2 others), despite no consensus existing from the existing Wikinews community based on Meta discussions, and discussions ongoing between MH and the WMF surrounding the copyright. Despite this, newswiki was created in what I can only describe as an overzealous attempt to move a community with no consensus. This prompted me being privately told by an onlooker that WO was not a "serious enough project for anyone other than you", and they had encouraged newswiki not to stay with WO.
- Sneaky Sasquatch Wiki was considering a move from Fandom, to either WO, MH, WG or WGG — the aggressive attitude of Globe (and others) at very quickly joining their Discord after one of their bureaucrats had asked for advice in the WO discord and pushing very aggressively for them to join WO, to the point that those in their community had become suspicious. I then followed, having already been in the server since before the founding of WO as a periodic player of the game. I was mostly giving the advice to them that while WO is very similar to MH, they may get somewhat better service from MH/WG, effectively saying that I don't always agree with what goes on at WO, trying to give the sentiment of "it’s not the best space for every wiki". Globe apparently took this as me attempting to disparage WO, saying verbatim that "nobody had asked me to join, that I did so of my own accord to share information that would not make them migrate". I am genuinely of the belief that not every wiki is one that best suits WO, and equally so that WO doesn't best suit every wiki, and forcing a community into something they themselves aren't sure of is simply dishonest and would cause more long term damage than simply encouraging them to find the best host for them.

I hope this clears things up for those who are confused. --zippybonzo (c • ca) 06:57, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Fearless (Global Administrator) ==
+== DarkMatterMan4500 (Global Patroller) ==
-{{discussion top|outcome= This request is successful, gaining the required 5 !votes and support ratio. Globe's concerns have been considered, and I too would like to encourage the candidate to ask a lot of questions to Stewards when in doubt. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:56, 1 May 2026 (UTC)}}
-Hey, I'd like to run for Global Administrator so I can assist in CVT-related matters and be able to help the platform on-wiki as well rather then only being able to help on the Discord Server, while being able to have a chance to be mentored by someone extremely experienced like Raidarr and grow my experience & judgement as well. Although I don't have many edits on Meta, I've been in the WikiOasis Discord Server for months now and have assisted in moderation, in addition to helping Skywiki getting merged to WikiOasis. All questions are welcomed and I'll try my best to answer them in a timely order.
-Thank you for your consideration, --[[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 13:30, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
-=== Questions ===
-# Do you believe that community facing users such as Stewards and Global sysops need to be professional when interacting with community members on-wiki and off-wiki? Does it matter with whom you are speaking to? -[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 13:44, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
-:I believe respect is for everyone (that is being reasonable) regardless of whatever position they are in or anywhere. However, I hold higher respect for people such as Raidarr whom has given me priceless advice before that I couldn't get elsewhere until recently this year. Though, for professionalism, while I would say I treat it similarly as respecting people, but it depends on where and context.
-:*If I'm in a public space, doesn't matter if it's on or off wiki (such as WikiOasis Discord Server at #general), I'll try to be a bit professional in my responses and be more patient for individuals who isn't being incredibly disrespectful (like calling volunteers nazis, for example).
-:*If I'm in a friend group, then I won't be professional at all, no need to be stiff when you don't have to.
-:I hope I have addressed your question appropriately. Thank you. --[[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 14:06, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
-=== Discussion ===
-# I will enter and say {{support}}, but other things as well. Generally, I think you could do reasonably with the role here; its a good place to grow from and you do improve as time goes on. It can help you get more used to features and working with people. As far as one thing to improve, Globe asked a good question and I think your answer is quite muddled. Now, I'm the one who will make it clear if I do not like you for your approach from the outset, I am after all the one who made [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?logid=1747055 this lock] on Miraheze. But there are a few things to say about this. For one it was exceptional in proportion to the attitude. You can review that profile and see they really pushed the boundary and no less than that should elicit the most curt responses. Secondly even with that in mind, it really isn't the ideal response. It can feel good to make, but it's not very professional and it does not contribute to the better image of Miraheze. After the action I'd wondered if anyone would think so and I did not see comment about it, but if someone did comment about that they'd be well within their rights. So if there is anyone I hold in greater respect when taking actions its people like peer NotAracham who is consistently professional, and yet has a more 'fearsome reputation' in some circles (I'm told, anyway). Here I've said in a couple places Dream Indigo is the role model for representation, they remind me of Reception123 on Miraheze. A consistent face, friendly but capable of being firm. So what is a good answer to Globe? I think it is to commit to a baseline of respect. You give everyone a fair chance, an initially equal opportunity from the moment they first turn up. You resist the urge to withhold it, unless it is proven decisively that it is not deserved, as MrPseudonymousEgo did by attacking a volunteer, and doubling down when the consequences were delivered despite saying he was leaving anyway. Even then the above would apply, but then you're mixing both necessary professionalism with a honest reflection of principle, and not accepting the premise of abuse. You also set a very high bar before the claws come out. Not every occasion of bad attitude or being a dick deserves your rebuke, and a respect-first attitude helps you avoid making that call when it simply isn't fair. Food for thought, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 12:05, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
-# {{support}} I would like to begin by stating that he has addressed my inquiries regarding his candidacy on Discord, and I must say that his responses were quite close to what I was seeking. I believe this could serve as a solid foundation for him to learn. --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:04, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
-# {{support}} — I expect you to obviously make some mistakes, but I think overall you're in the right place and I think with some guidance you should be able to contribute positively to the project. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 19:05, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
-# I've mulled over this for a few days, and I think I'm going to land at a {{oppose|Weak}}. I have a few concerns regarding Fearless's previous interactions with some of our communities and unfamiliarity with our processes. In the previous request, it was mentioned that despite Fearless's lack of experience on-wiki, they are still familiar with how the wiki operates due to them being active on the Discord. A few things have surfaced over the past few days/weeks that make me question this philosophy. I'll name a few:
-:# Asking stewards to close Raidarr's after it had been open for just three days, simply because of the vote count
-:# Asking one of our communities why they chose WikiOasis over Miraheze, and specifically inquiring about whether or not they were banned from Mira (they were not)
-:# Making comments in the Miraheze Discord server about how "oasis is basically like a not so great training academy [for mira volunteers] but it works."
-:# Taking it upon themselves to make statements on behalf of WikiOasis in semi-public spaces, such as "I do know so I can make the comment. But WO is in no position to host such a wiki. We have zero manpower."
-:These are just a few that I recalled when writing this, but more have appeared through our interactions that have given me pause to support a request for global sysop if this is what they have done ''without'' any additional tools. All of these together, combined with no on-wiki experience anywhere that I am aware of and the extremely vague response to my question, concerns me. If elected, I would encourage Fearless to familiarize themselves with more of our inter-workings and ask frequent questions of the team before acting. -[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 21:09, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
-::I suspect the third one is partially my fault because I have expressed the thought that oasis for its much more informal structure and younger management can act as a sort of 'proving ground' to consider at Miraheze, but a not so great training academy is a poor way to phrase that and it is by no means anything official. I will concur the need to be far more careful in open statements, especially 2 and 4. 1 is a procedural quirk I assume has already been corrected. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 12:01, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
-: Going to go with a {{support|weak}}, I have had ok interactions with Fearless but I understand there have been some issues. Not sure I can comment too much, mostly because I'm the new kid on the block. [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 21:26, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
-{{discussion bottom}}
-== Sapphire Jack (Global Administrator) ==
-{{discussion top|'''Withdrawn''' as said on WO Discord, and this request would not have passed due to canvassing, inexperience and have no interactions with the global community nor have any credible contributions in similar wikifarms (Miraheze). A few community members suggested the candidate to run for Global Patroller instead, and the candidate is encouraged to not canvass their vote, involve themselves in the global community by contributing or interacting with discussions, and learn how certain Global Roles work before creating a similar request in the future. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 09:22, 18 May 2026 (UTC)}}
-Hey, I’m Sapphire Jack, the owner of the largest wiki on this platform, the Italian Brainrot Wiki. I’d like to run for global administrator so I can gain perspective on how different wikis are managed and gain experience working with different moderation teams, as well as overall helping the platform grow as a whole. If you have any questions about me or my prior experiences, please let me know. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:26, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-=== Questions ===
-# What do you currently do that requires Global Administrator capabilities?
-# How do you feel the role of a Global Administrator fits in/complements existing local administration teams without so to speak "cramping their style"?
-# (shamelessly stolen from raidarr) Do you believe you have made mistakes on this platform so far? If so, what did you do to improve from those mistakes? You could elaborate on just one if you like, or a couple.
-# Global Administrators are responsible for wiki creations, how would you go about approaching the following requests, including additional action you may take following the acceptance/denial of each request?
-#* A well known troublemaker on the platform decides to request a new wiki, describing it as a new "uncensored encyclopedia on politics".
-#* A brand new user decides to request a wiki saying that they are going to "create their version of Wikipedia".
-#* A brand new user requests a wiki and fills the request form with racial slurs and abuse towards our staff members?
-Best,
---'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 06:14, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-:# I’m an experienced moderator, and would like to be able to help moderate other wikis, while ensuring everyone follows global policy. Also, on my current wiki, there is a frequent amount of users requiring to get globally locked for underage/breaking other global rules. I could deal with those global locks entirely, so other global admins/stewards could spend their energy elsewhere.
-:# Global admins try to help deal with major vandals, however, each wiki has its own structure, style, and way of running. Aside from enforcing global policies, we don’t need to interfere with that.
-:# I don’t believe I’ve made any mistakes on the platform so far, and after taking a poll, the users on my wiki agree that I’m the “Best owner ever.”
-:# For the first example, I would simply deny the request, no further action needed. For the second example, I would also deny the request: we don’t need a forked wikipedia. However, for the third example, I would not only deny the request, I would also Glock them and ask a Steward to run an alt check to see if they’re an alt of an existing vandal.
-:[[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 12:41, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-=== Discussion ===
-*
-*@[[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] have you been on other Wiki platforms before as I would often use those as perspective   [[User:Lvst7070|Lvst7070]] ([[User talk:Lvst7070|talk]]) 03:39, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:Yes, my wiki was previously on Miraheze, before getting moved to here. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:I’ve also used fandom [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-{{collapse top|Struck vote with extended discussion}}
-*<s>{{oppose}} submitting an opposition. I strongly encourage the candidate to explore alternative ways to contribute that do not involve advanced permissions before requesting any such permissions. Furthermore, I do not currently feel comfortable granting advanced permissions to someone who is not well-known within the community without demonstrating the necessary skills and trust required for these permissions. Being a moderator alone does not justify sufficient experience to warrant the level of expertise needed for these permissions, as there is much more involved than merely understanding the fundamentals of moderating MediaWiki functions and knowing how to utilize the tools. --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 16:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)</s>
-*:Struck due to the use of LLMs in this comment. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 16:34, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*::reading that that does not sound like it was made by LLAMAS at all yes that's what I call llms llamas  [[User:Lvst7070|Lvst7070]] ([[User talk:Lvst7070|talk]]) 17:21, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*::I did use LLMS, however probably shouldn't of - There is no policy against it  And therefore should unstriked  until such policy is put into place  [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:::There is no policy against murdering people who vandalise wikis, it's still frowned upon --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*::::I mean, there's the law.. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:27, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*::It's very generic and doesn't follow the pattern of writing I'd expect to see, and makes no grammatical sense: "Oppose submitting an opposition" is a double negative. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:<blockquote> Oppose submitting an opposition </blockquote>
-*:Do you support or oppose? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:: oppose- However, there is still no policy which Underlines such  [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:26, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:::Again, it's frowned upon, and removes any validity from your argument, the whole point is simply they "don't have enough experience", but you could've just written that instead of a paragraph of incoherent blabber that I makes little to no sense --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:32, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*I note for the record on this tangent that it is not ideal to strike a full voting comment. Where its usefulness comes in, like what kind of argument it makes or even the fact its an llm, would be a post-closure determination. It would weigh rather less for being incoherent or wrong, while it may have greater influence if it is well reasoned. I believe this is the steward duty, rather than a pre emptive full strike since the alternative is people just don't offer reasoning at all, like what actually happened. I do agree the initial position was rather nonsensical. Now 'collapsing' this section so it is less of a confusing read later. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:08, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
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-*{{support|weak}}: ultimately I don't see a major difference between your credibility and that of the other GS/Stews. I think there's room here to coach and grow. The work on IBW — wrangling a fairly substantial number of misbehaving children without leaving it as someone else's problem — is definitely something in your favour, however I don't know whether GS is the way to go for this. I commend you throwing your hat into the ring. I implore to you that if this request does succeed that you take things slowly and learn how they work before doing anything drastic, but generally I don't have any significant concerns beyond the general lack of experience, although it's not incomparable to what already exists on the team, and I'd hope you could shape into a fairly active contributor globally with the right guidance, but I won't jump the gun there. Best, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:24, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*{{oppose}} I'm not thrilled about them canvassing. They also show a lack of knowledge of what the duties of a global SYOSP are, which leaves me to oppose this request. I'd strongly advise the candidate to find other ways to help that don't require global rights; perhaps in the future they can be reconsidered. And coached on how to use the tools if they can show maturity in the future. I don't find them being an "admin of Italian brainrot" a sufficient reason to be a global admin, as there is way more to it than just being a local admin and other tools to learn how to use that a global admin has access to. Their reasoning is also not convincing enough as to why they need These tools, IMHO, --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:Just so you know, I’m not just a moderator on the wiki, I’m the owner. I’ve been working with different stewards for quite some time now, and have been moderating for nearly a year now. Raidarr is a steward on miraheze, so he can fill you in on the details about his experience with me when the wiki was on miraheze. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 21:29, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
-*{{Neutral}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 00:58, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
-*going to go with an {{oppose}} here, while I applaud your efforts and acknowledge you've been helpful but I personally believe the GA toolset is too advanced for someone who has little presence outside their own wiki. I don't think simply having experience managing your own wiki makes you qualified for such a large hat. I would suggest trying to build a helpful presence such as on our Discord or here on meta. [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 21:00, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
-* This is not a voting comment but I will say that Sapphire Jack has a very thankless role with experience that is unique even among the current crew of global volunteers. It takes real effort to keep a community with heavy appeal to rambunctious children in order, and to do that actively. And Sapphire is at the top of that list, not just any moderator on the team. Now I address Sapphire directly. I think there is reasonable concern that a global role like this requires somewhat different skills from maintaining a single, although large community. These are things I'm sure you could learn and your second answer is very promising. I think people would be generally more comfortable with you as Global Patroller where you can be included in global affairs and get an idea how they work/prove that capability, and then expand to larger access. But relative to the current volunteers I don't think your competence is out of range for advancing straight to Global Administrator. Regardless what you get, I wish you the best of luck and I'm pleased you're looking into something new like this. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:19, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
-* <s>I'm going to drop a {{support}} here. Your work handling the challenge that IBW can has been impressive and you've always seemed easy to work with. I think there's definitely some global training that is needed, but you seem willing to learn and your answers to questions don't raise any major red flags. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 23:25, 14 May 2026 (UTC)</s>
-*: Changing to {{oppose}} for a few reasons. I've monitored a few discussions between stewards and the candidate and they seem to show a fundamental lack of understanding of what a global administrator does and what they should not do. I wasn't initially planning to fully oppose, however, the candidate has [[w:WP:CANVASS|canvassed]] users to this discussion, which is far below what I expect of a GA. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:15, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-* <s>I'll go ahead and drop a {{support}}. You have a clue and are not a jerk. This role isn't a big deal anyways, it doesn't include PII access or even global locks. </s>[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:38, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
-*: {{Oppose}} for canvassing users to this discussion in private. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:27, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-* {{oppose|weak}} While I believe your work in keeping IBW from exploding is extremely respectable. I don't think you have enough interactions on meta here or have any credibility elsewhere I have observed, I would rather you be Global Patroller for a bit to learn how WikiOasis Global Enforcement works first before expanding, basically referencing Crystalite here. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 01:19, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:cough cough *guilty as charged* cough cough [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 01:30, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
-:<div class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''Relisted following steward discussion to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 14:50, 17 May 2026 (UTC) 12:29, 17 May 2026 (UTC)</small>
-:Wait, what? [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 14:54, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-::It's the general agreement among Stewards that your request should not have been closed as it didn't yet meet the 2/3 support ratio required for election. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 14:58, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*{{oppose}} he's a power demon and demoted me from admin to rollbacker on ibw because I called him out for using world edit on the wiki Minecraft server, he also generally acts like a dictator [[User:Q|Q]] ([[User talk:Q|talk]]) 17:09, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*{{oppose}} I don't even know this person that well enough, so I don't have that much confidence. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 17:12, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:Wouldn’t that be reason for abstain or neutral tho? [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 20:15, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*::you're not getting gadmin lil bro 💔 [[User:Q|Q]] ([[User talk:Q|talk]]) 20:25, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:::{{ping|Sapphire Jack}} Since you resorted to basically [[w:WP:CANVAS|canvassing other editors]], I don't have any trust in you to even be a global admin, never mind gaining any advanced rights. There's not a [[w:WP:SNOW|snowball's chance in hell]] this will be a success with the direction this is heading in, if you ask me. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 23:23, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*::::I apologize for canvassing my vote. I was unaware that attempting to convince people to support my rfp was against global policy, and understand I shouldn’t have done that. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 02:56, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
-*<s>{{Support}} A good guy, and the best one between the staff in the Brainrot wiki, for example, he rewarded me interface admin after I worked out with Fantaman1209, a controversial kid. He deserves to be a global admin aswell [[User:ElNazari|ElNazari]] ([[User talk:ElNazari|talk]]) 20:39, 17 May 2026 (UTC)</s> Striking as vote is almost certainly canvassed. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 20:42, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*{{abstain}} Canvassed the vote, but overall great candidate [[User:Los Tictacsitos|Los Tictacsitos]] ([[User talk:Los Tictacsitos|talk]])  03:06, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
-*{{Abstain}} The user in question, Sapphire Jack, is the "owner" of the wiki I most commonly edit in, hence I have some conflict of interest in this discussion. Nevertheless though, I do think he does have good intentions, however, again, good intentions isn't enough to get GA, which from what I can see is quite a senior role. Additionally, in the Italian Brainrot Wiki, he is mostly inactive outside of discussions regarding bureaucrats and relations with other wikis/the farm, and doesn't edit pages to much of a degree nor moderate outside of blocking people who insult him. Most of the administrative work is actually done by bureaucrats like me, to give an example, he haphazardly promoted a user called Cityngeon to the role of Bureaucrat, who changed the requirements of the vote, among other fishy actions (it otherwise wouldn't have passed by quite a margin), which I had to find and bring to attention to him. At the end of the day, though, he could be a somewhat decent candidate. --[[User:SPIRACY NOTCANON|SPIRACY NOTCANON]] ([[User talk:SPIRACY NOTCANON|talk]]) 07:12, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
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-== Vwregewrrergrge/VWR (Global Patroller) ==
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-::'''Withdrawn''' [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 15:26, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
+::'''Successful''' -[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 00:56, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
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-G'day, my name is Vwregewrrergrge, though you're welcome to call me VWR. I am a bureaucrat on the largest wiki on WikiOasis (Italian Brainrot Wiki), and a Miraheze contributor with experience across multiple wikis. I actively maintain and contribute to several wikis including the Prehistoric Wiki, the Minecraft Wiki, and the Mathematics Wiki. As it stands, WikiOasis currently has no global patrollers, and I believe that is a gap worth filling. I am volunteering for this role out of genuine concern for the safety and quality of the platform, and to properly support staff in keeping it safe. Underage users are a serious issue on WikiOasis, they return repeatedly despite being blocked, and having a dedicated global patroller reporting directly to staff would make handling these cases significantly easier. On average, a blocked underage user creates around 5 alt accounts, and I have experience detecting them through patterns in writing style, user page formatting, and also grammar. I take this application seriously and I hope it is received the same way, and I am not trying to act like a security guard, what is this nonsense, Ii anyone is willing to guide me through any responsibilities associated with the role, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|VWR]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 2:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
+Hi, I am DarkMatterMan4500 from Miraheze, and I want to apply for the [[Global Patrollers]] permission here on WikiOasis, based on my experiences from Miraheze, since I have been working hard on clearing away vandalism all across the wikifarm for the [[mh:m:CVT|counter-vandalism team]] from said wikifarm. Now, I understand that some of you may have questions and concerns for me, and I'll do my best to answer them in the best way I can, so feel free to give your [[mh:allthetropes:Brutal Honesty|honest opinions]] without sugarcoating anything. I am fully aware that Global Patrollers can block users all across the WikiOasis wikis (regardless of where the [[w:WP:DISRUPT|disruption]] is taking place), delete pages, revisions, and use the basic tools, but with limited options, something that I'm willing to take as a fellow editor. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 15:57, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
-=== Discussion ===
-*{{oppose}}. You have solicited PII from suspected underage users. That is simply inappropriate, and this is a matter of public record. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:57, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:I understand where you're coming from, I shouldn't have asked for that information and I won't do it again, I now know the right way to handle it. Sorry. [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|Vwregewrrergrge]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 15:02, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*{{oppose|strong}} users should not be acting as vigilantes, especially not on the matter of child safety. They should report it to safety and not be soliciting their personal information through the platform. To be frank I am surprised that more action was not taken at the time of the incident, however this is definitely a no from me. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 15:01, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:Understood, and I respect your concern, looking back I should have immediately reported it to staff rather than taking matters into my own hands, and I genuinely regret that. This role is exactly what would stop me from ever needing to do that again since I'd have the proper tools and authority to handle it the right way. There were some mistakes I have made, do not hate me for that. There are no Global patrollers. [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|Vwregewrrergrge]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 15:04, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*::The fact there are no global patrollers is not a reason to support your request. You have been acting as a vigilante against underage users, and then proceed to list that as a reason why you want the bit. You do not need the global patroller tools to make a safety report. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 15:06, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*::Global patroller has no tools involved for this process. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 15:07, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:::You're right, I don't need the tools to report, but having them would let me help WikiOasis much faster and more effectively, and that's genuinely all I want to do, along with helping with pages, stubs, technical problems if necessary, I just want to provide WikiOasis with help. [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|Vwregewrrergrge]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 15:11, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*::::I don't think this is going anywhere — Global patroller does not have any tools that particularly enhance the ability for someone to provide technical support nor edit pages --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 15:16, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
-*:::::Yes, I have decided to After withdraw this vote, I might commence it again in the future, I understand that I am not ready. Please, may someone shut this vote down? [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|Vwregewrrergrge]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 15:21, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
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-== DarkMatterMan4500 (Global Patroller) ==
-Hi, I am DarkMatterMan4500 from Miraheze, and I want to apply for the [[Global Patrollers]] permission here on WikiOasis, based on my experiences from Miraheze, since I have been working hard on clearing away vandalism all across the wikifarm for the [[mh:m:CVT|counter-vandalism team]] from said wikifarm. Now, I understand that some of you may have questions and concerns for me, and I'll do my best to answer them in the best way I can, so feel free to give your [[mh:allthetropes:Brutal Honesty|honest opinions]] without sugarcoating anything. I am fully aware that Global Patrollers can block users all across the WikiOasis wikis (regardless of where disruption is taking place), delete pages, revisions, and use the basic tools, but with limited options, something that I'm willing to take as a fellow editor. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 15:57, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
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 *{{support|strong}} Always had good interactions for DMM, I have no doubt that they would put the tools to good use. --[[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Crystalite13|contribs]])
 *:{{ping|Crystalite13}} Don't forget to sign your vote! [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 01:05, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:{{ping|Fearless|Crystalite13}} I'm glad to hear that from you 2. I'll do my best like always. :) --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 11:32, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
 *{{support}} no major concerns, would be good to have a few more people to help around. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 18:03, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
+*{{support|Strongest}} Per Fearless. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 09:05, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
+*{{support|Strongest}} --[[User:PinkPugPrincess|PinkPugPrincess]] ([[User talk:PinkPugPrincess|talk]]) 12:05, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
+*{{support}}  --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 00:22, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
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+== Globe (Revocation) ==
+Hello all.
+I have been ruminating on this for a while, and while I understand my own role in this conflict, it has been brewing for many months behind closed doors. I understand Globe has held this role (or equivalent) since almost day 1 of WO, however right now, I don't believe that Globe has either the intention or the ability to continue to act in the best interest of WO. This latest incident which has cemented my opinion on the matter is relating to attempts to micromanage the opinions of volunteers. I will detail this further along in this fairly long topic.
+This is not meant to be a spiteful attempt to remove him from a position of trust within the community, but I myself feel the trust that I have placed in Globe is no longer honoured. This stems from a pattern of behaviour that I have noticed that appears to me to be anti-community, and some are downright ridiculous:
+* Globe has a very strong opposition to 2FA (two-factor authentication), which is currently mandated for all foundation managed Google accounts. Globe does not have 2FA enabled currently on his on wiki account as of writing, and at the time when I changed 2FA to become a requirement for foundation Google accounts, I recall Globe saying (through channels that have since been made private to me), that he was considering motioning the board to remove requirements for 2FA. I need not explain the security risks this poses, but the attitude of "I have a strong enough password not to get hacked" really isn't sufficient, and runs a risk of compromise to users safety.
+* I continually have the belief that Globe wants to keep control of the site, such as election of stewards, global sysops and other RfC topics under the control of the board, one of his concerns being people from less reputable communities supporting their preferred candidates who may cause problems. While I appreciate the community governance mechanisms haven't been around for long, these concerns are yet to be realised, and I've seen evidence above on this page that these concerns have actively not happened.
+* The latest incident is surrounding volunteer opinions, their ability to speak freely, and Globe actively trying to micromanage them. If you read [[User:Globe/Volunteer Conduct Policy]] (which is largely LLM generated), it effectively removes any ability for volunteers to speak critically on any matter. This is backed up by internal messages, where [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] said to Globe 'You're just trying to drag it out for some ideal behaviour that you want to be enforced on WikiOasis Volunteers', where he then responded 'Correct. You've got it'. The belief that volunteers represent the foundation is entirely unfounded, has not been approved by the board to my knowledge, and these roles are entirely community managed and shouldn't be micromanaged by the foundation, this goes entirely against the point of the roles being appointed.
+I don't want to turn this into a big spat, because it's not worth the time, but right now the constant internal arguments provide an environment I cannot work in, to the point that I am planning to distance myself from the project entirely (or at least to tech only until someone can takeover those responsiblities) when these weekly arguments are happening, it contributes to me becoming ever more burnt out, and generally makes me not enjoy working on the project in the way that I did. I am ending up pulled away from tech to defend my peers when their conduct is continually being pointed out by Globe as unacceptable for various reasons which to me and others seem unacceptable.
+I appreciate this is very much the nuclear option, but right now I don't see Globe's involvement in the steward team to be contributing positively to the overall success of this project, and instead focuses on micromanaging his peers as though he has superiority over them, and continually picking flaws with how they speak in public channels. The approach of those in the private channels must only ever speak positively of WO and the wikis that are hosted on it is not the right one in my belief, and Globe is pushing this so hard that it comes at the expense of the overall wellbeing of the project, to the point that it is actively harming it. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 07:14, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
+=== Discussion ===
+*<s>{{support}}. I, too, have been pondering on this for a while, and Globe's involvement in the project is very much hurting, rather than helping. Constant spats with Zippy, constant dictatorial actions. I'm done with Globe, and I think it's his time to move on from the project. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:18, 22 May 2026 (UTC)</s>
+*:{{oppose}}, this seems to have turned into purely a personal spat, and I suggest a boomerang for those involved. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:30, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
+*{{support}} - [[User:FNFGamer718|FNFGamer718]] ([[User talk:FNFGamer718|talk]]) 20:23, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+*{{support}} - No offense, but he has to go and move on. A lot of times Globe and Zippy are usually arguing at each other for something that is just nonsensical. Additionally, the ideal he wants to be enforced is just dictatorial and delusional, everyone has human rights, and one of our rights is the right to have our own opinion. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 20:28, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+*{{Support|weak}} Well, I haven't been aware of Globe's recent conduct, but upon seeing this, I can actually understand why, and am actually quite troubled by the fact that Globe apparently wants to motion in removing the requirements for 2FA, when that's the most basic part about security. I mean, who in their right minds would want to get their accounts hacked regularly? ----[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 20:32, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:I plan on making a larger statement later, but the part about me motioning away requirements for 2FA on Google accounts did not happen. I have 2FA enabled on my Discord account and, if a requirement for volunteers to have 2FA on their on-wiki account passes, I would enable it here as well. I have already done so to comply with such a requirement on testwiki.wiki. I don't have it currently enabled because my authenticator is only on my phone, so I would be unable to access WO when I don't have my phone on me and am instead using my laptop. For the record, I do believe in account security and strong/unique passwords. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:38, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+*::{{ping|Globe}} I am just so genuinely confused right now. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 20:45, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:::How so? I’m happy to explain anything further. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:49, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+*::::{{ping|Globe}} About everything that {{user|Zippy}} was just talking about. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 11:28, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:::::In my reply to {{noping|Fearless}} below, I attempted to debunk some of what Zippy said as well. I welcome additional questions that you still have. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 14:17, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
+*::I never said you motioned it, I simply said you considered motioning it, might have been slightly unclear in my description but the general sentiment was that you were going to take further action from a board role about it --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 20:48, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:::Any way you want to say it is untrue. Google themselves requires 2FA for superadmins, it is not a board matter. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:50, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+*::::Again, I do not have access to the channel but someone such as tali who retains access could check, you were saying you wanted to motion the board to remove the 2FA requirements that I had personally set on Google, as well as that which was set on Discord --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 20:54, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+* {{oppose}} My main statement “debunking” a lot of false claims made by Fearless and Zippy can be found in the subsection below, however, there are a few things I want to add here. This entire thread is a personal spite with not a shard of proof, other than “well I think I remember you said…” Whatever the reason for the spite request for removal is, I’m not exactly sure. Zippybonzo has already informed all of the volunteers of his intention to leave WikiOasis and start a new farm after the board refused to allow him to make WikiOasis an “exclusive farm” where only select wikis would be able to be created. He specifically mention the Italian Brainrot wiki and others that would not meet his ideals. Zippybonzo wants WikiOasis to be exactly what he wants and I am the only one who actively stands up to that. If standing on that is what causes me to lose my steward role, then so be it. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 01:47, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:For posterity: the subsection Globe is referring to has been removed due to it containing messages from internal volunteer channels. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 02:19, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
+*::Those channels are not held privately under NDA, so I see no reason why they cannot be partially shared publicly for the sake of this discussion --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 05:05, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:::"Not under NDA" does not necessarily mean "OK to share" - when private messages get shares publicly, it's usually done as a gotcha rather than in an attempt to legitimately substantiate your claims; in cases where messages from internal channels ''are'' relevant, there's typically no reason why you'd directly quote them rather than paraphrasing (which gets the message across just as well). [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 05:12, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
+*::::If I paraphrase it gets accused of it being a personal spat, such as with the 2FA matter where these claims are now seen as "unsubstantiated" despite the fact those messages were shared in private channels that you were a part of --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 05:25, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:::::Fair point. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 05:27, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:First part about there not being a shard of proof has been detailed somewhat above — calling it an attempt to spite would be a stretch, I am of the belief that your behaviour which has been ongoing for months, where you call out people who quite often have done nothing wrong for not being "professional", which has never been a requirement to volunteer, is counter-productive and leads to weekly arguments. The board never "refused", I had simply discussed the concept with a few volunteers, and at no point did I ever raise it to a formal board discussion, so this is just entirely untrue. Namedropping IBW in an attempt to get them to become upset and go "Globe is sticking up for us let's make sure he keeps his steward bit" is also unnecessary, I have no problems with them existing here now, but in hindsight they should probably not have been accepted here on so many grounds, notwithstanding the community element. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 05:38, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
+* {{oppose}} I agree with JR+  I don't see any evidence to support the claims made against globe [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 04:11, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
+I'm going to just make a more detailed version of my initial statement to address some of the issues raised here:
+* I don't think this is entirely a personal spat, ultimately it stems from the fact that short of me entirely leaving the project which I don't see as a feasible option without it dying a very slow and quite painful death, there is no other way to stop the constant arguments that happen internally, that are almost entirely between me and Globe. I will admit I instigate just as many arguments between us, but ultimately it's a conflict that I don't see any other way really to end. I do know how it can be seen as a personal spat, but I really don't see a way forward for my involvement while Globe is here in the position that he is.
+* With regards to the misuse of CheckUser, I have not conducted nor been involved in a full audit, however there are approximately 300 checks across all wikis that Globe has performed, of which 90% had no reason attached to them. When 1 in 10 checks are unclear to others about why exactly they are being performed. Even if they were from SuggestedInvestigations, 96% of his checks from before the feature was even implemented didn't have a reason. This obfuscation makes it unclear why checks are being ran, I assume all are for the most part legitimate checks, but when so many checks don't have a reason I find it hard to AGF.
+* There is a wider pattern of poor handling of PII, for example, internally I have been pushing to use Slack for NDAed communications, such as board, T&S and tech. Globe is seemingly entirely opposed to moving stewards onto Slack, which is a safer place for PII as it means that a rouge discord admin can't grant someone a role which would then give them access to a fairly substantial amount of PII shared in various channels.
+* I will clear up a lot on the 2FA part:
+** Firstly, Globe did not actually motion the board, based on my recollection it was simply some form of threat to push for removing 2FA as a requirement on Discord.
+** Secondly, regarding that it is "untrue" — I appreciate there may be gaps in what I can say here as it happened a while ago in the board discord server, there were frequent discussions from Globe surrounding him wanting to get rid of 2FA requirements.
+** I primarily recall Globe making a threat/statement along the lines of "please remove 2FA from Discord or I will motion the board", this was corroborated by a message that I sent to someone in April where I said 'did I mention globe has threatened to motion the board surrounding the requirement for 2fa in discord/google' — which to me reiterates my belief that Globe was going to consider using his board role to remove a 2FA requirement on discord.
+* With regards to how Globe says he was the first to support the motion surrounding community governance, I do not doubt that, however it took a lot of pushback. Globe had prepared a form for people to express interest in becoming global volunteers, which in response to I expressed the general sentiment that I would prefer we go for the system of publicly requested roles voted on by the community, to which he very literally said "no" without any further discussion. Below is a transcript of that interaction:
+** Globe: <link to global permission interest form>
+** [cut 7 messages unrelated about another wiki]
+** Globe (replying to link above): should i publish?<br>wanted your OK first
+** Zippy: I'd rather we did proper community requests<br>on an RfP page
+** Globe: no<br>any other concerns?
+* Furthermore, Globe has made it clear to me how he doesn't want me to be anything beyond a tech here, in multiple messages that echo a similar sentiment, saying "no one has asked you to be a steward, safety, discord mod, etc."
+* Then there's the handling of two fairly large wiki migrations which ultimately went unsuccessfully and I question largely.
+**Wikinews was shutdown by the WMF in early May, and one person who edited Wikinews (won't name them here to avoid outing them) joined the WO discord and wanted to move Wikinews to WO (along with 1-2 others), despite no consensus existing from the existing Wikinews community based on Meta discussions, and discussions ongoing between MH and the WMF surrounding the copyright. Despite this, newswiki was created in what I can only describe as an overzealous attempt to move a community with no consensus. This prompted me being privately told by an onlooker that WO was not a "serious enough project for anyone other than you", and they had encouraged newswiki not to stay with WO.
+**Sneaky Sasquatch Wiki was considering a move from Fandom, to either WO, MH, WG or WGG — the aggressive attitude of Globe (and others) at very quickly joining their Discord after one of their bureaucrats had asked for advice in the WO discord and pushing very aggressively for them to join WO, to the point that those in their community had become suspicious. I then followed, having already been in the server since before the founding of WO as a periodic player of the game. I was mostly giving the advice to them that while WO is very similar to MH, they may get somewhat better service from MH/WG, effectively saying that I don't always agree with what goes on at WO, trying to give the sentiment of "it’s not the best space for every wiki". Globe apparently took this as me attempting to disparage WO, saying verbatim that "nobody had asked me to join, that I did so of my own accord to share information that would not make them migrate". I am genuinely of the belief that not every wiki is one that best suits WO, and equally so that WO doesn't best suit every wiki, and forcing a community into something they themselves aren't sure of is simply dishonest and would cause more long term damage than simply encouraging them to find the best host for them.
+I hope this clears things up for those who are confused. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 06:57, 24 May 2026 (UTC)