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-You can request [[Stewards|Steward]], [[Meta:Global administrators|Global Sysop]], and Global Patroller permissions on this page.
+You can request [[Stewards|Steward]], [[Meta:Global administrators|Global Sysop]], and [[Global Patrollers|Global Patroller]] permissions on this page.
 Any user who registered before a request was opened may vote in that request. Only one vote per user per request is permitted, and it cannot come from an alternative account. This is to prevent abuse.
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 == DarkMatterMan4500 (Global Patroller) ==
-Hi, I am DarkMatterMan4500 from Miraheze, and I want to apply for the [[Global Patrollers]] permission here on WikiOasis, based on my experiences from Miraheze, since I have been working hard on clearing away vandalism all across the wikifarm for the [[mh:m:CVT|counter-vandalism team]] from said wikifarm. Now, I understand that some of you may have questions and concerns for me, and I'll do my best to answer them in the best way I can, so feel free to give your [[mh:allthetropes:Brutal Honesty|honest opinions]] without sugarcoating anything. I am fully aware that Global Patrollers can block users all across the WikiOasis wikis (regardless of where disruption is taking place), delete pages, revisions, and use the basic tools, but with limited options, something that I'm willing to take as a fellow editor. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 15:57, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
+Hi, I am DarkMatterMan4500 from Miraheze, and I want to apply for the [[Global Patrollers]] permission here on WikiOasis, based on my experiences from Miraheze, since I have been working hard on clearing away vandalism all across the wikifarm for the [[mh:m:CVT|counter-vandalism team]] from said wikifarm. Now, I understand that some of you may have questions and concerns for me, and I'll do my best to answer them in the best way I can, so feel free to give your [[mh:allthetropes:Brutal Honesty|honest opinions]] without sugarcoating anything. I am fully aware that Global Patrollers can block users all across the WikiOasis wikis (regardless of where the [[w:WP:DISRUPT|disruption]] is taking place), delete pages, revisions, and use the basic tools, but with limited options, something that I'm willing to take as a fellow editor. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 15:57, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
 === Questions ===
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 *{{support|strong}} Always had good interactions for DMM, I have no doubt that they would put the tools to good use. --[[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Crystalite13|contribs]])
 *:{{ping|Crystalite13}} Don't forget to sign your vote! [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 01:05, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:{{ping|Fearless|Crystalite13}} I'm glad to hear that from you 2. I'll do my best like always. :) --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 11:32, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
 *{{support}} no major concerns, would be good to have a few more people to help around. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 18:03, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
 *{{support|Strongest}} Per Fearless. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 09:05, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
 *{{support|Strongest}} --[[User:PinkPugPrincess|PinkPugPrincess]] ([[User talk:PinkPugPrincess|talk]]) 12:05, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
+*{{support|strong}} . his behaviour is unacceptable --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 23:24, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
 == Globe (Revocation) ==
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 I don't want to turn this into a big spat, because it's not worth the time, but right now the constant internal arguments provide an environment I cannot work in, to the point that I am planning to distance myself from the project entirely (or at least to tech only until someone can takeover those responsiblities) when these weekly arguments are happening, it contributes to me becoming ever more burnt out, and generally makes me not enjoy working on the project in the way that I did. I am ending up pulled away from tech to defend my peers when their conduct is continually being pointed out by Globe as unacceptable for various reasons which to me and others seem unacceptable.
-I appreciate this is very much the nuclear option, but right now I don't see Globe's involvement in the steward team to be contributing positively to the overall success of this project, and instead focuses on micromanaging his peers as though he has superiority over them, and continually picking flaws with how they speak in public channels. The approach of those in the private channels must only ever speak positively of WO and the wikis that are hosted on it is not the right one in my belief, and Globe is pushing this so hard that it comes at the expense of the overall wellbeing of the project, to the point that it is actively harming it.
+I appreciate this is very much the nuclear option, but right now I don't see Globe's involvement in the steward team to be contributing positively to the overall success of this project, and instead focuses on micromanaging his peers as though he has superiority over them, and continually picking flaws with how they speak in public channels. The approach of those in the private channels must only ever speak positively of WO and the wikis that are hosted on it is not the right one in my belief, and Globe is pushing this so hard that it comes at the expense of the overall wellbeing of the project, to the point that it is actively harming it. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 07:14, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
 === Discussion ===
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 *::{{ping|Globe}} I am just so genuinely confused right now. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 20:45, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
 *:::How so? I’m happy to explain anything further. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:49, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+*::::{{ping|Globe}} About everything that {{user|Zippy}} was just talking about. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 11:28, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
+*:::::In my reply to {{noping|Fearless}} below, I attempted to debunk some of what Zippy said as well. I welcome additional questions that you still have. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 14:17, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
 *::I never said you motioned it, I simply said you considered motioning it, might have been slightly unclear in my description but the general sentiment was that you were going to take further action from a board role about it --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 20:48, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
 *:::Any way you want to say it is untrue. Google themselves requires 2FA for superadmins, it is not a board matter. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:50, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
 *::::Again, I do not have access to the channel but someone such as tali who retains access could check, you were saying you wanted to motion the board to remove the 2FA requirements that I had personally set on Google, as well as that which was set on Discord --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 20:54, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
+=== Globe's CheckUser Usage Discussion ===
+Hello everyone, I would like to bring light to how apparently Globe uses CheckUser permissions to check other user's information without any actual evidence, just doing CU whenever he feels "suspicious" about someone.
+Zippy has told Globe in an internal volunteer channel that: "I don't like that you randomly run checkusers on people who show no behavioral evidence of needing a check with no reason attached."
+For volunteers who has access - go [https://discord.com/channels/1299761391523205273/1494723448482693141/1503881626445152317 here] regarding about the message I am referencing.
+This is extremely concerning as PII should be handled securely and can't be done for any reason unless there is probable reason that Cross-Wiki abuse is happening via the usage of multiple user accounts.
+I would like Zippy/other uninvolved Stewards to explain more if there is additional details regarding Globe's CU usage and Globe to explain themselves.
+I genuinely believe Globe wants all the power to themselves and does not want the best for WikiOasis, as evidenced by him becoming a dictator and attempting to control volunteer's right to hold their opinions, keep the board's ability to appoint roles, and finally apparently doing CU unilaterally on seeming innocent users who has done nothing. Until Globe is completely removed from all volunteer positions, including being a Director of the WikiOasis Foundation Board, I may consider withholding information in respective volunteer channels as I cannot trust Globe since they have started arguments countless times for the dumbest reasons, alongside taking all the power to themselves and apparently doing CU on users with zero evidence and need to use it. --[[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 11:48, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
+:This statement is concerning on many levels. {{quote|Apparently Globe uses CheckUser permissions to check other user's information without any actual evidence.}}
+:Is simply not true. I frankly don’t use the CheckUser tool that often, and I’ve made exactly one check in the month of May. Most (90% or more) of my checks originate from the extension SuggestedInvestigations. It flags when multiple users originate from the same IP or user agent, along with a few other things like disposable emails. I don’t really look at user agents or disposable emails as warranting a check, but if I see 5 accounts with similar usernames, editing patterns, and they’re showing up in suggested investigations, yeah, I’m going to make that check. I have forgotten to place a reason in some of my checks (but they can usually be assumed to be “triggered by suggested investigations”), and for that I do apologize, but I am always willing to explain my checks to the steward team as the privacy policy allows.
+:<br>
+:Further,
+:{{quote|becoming a dictator and attempting to control volunteer's right to hold their opinions}}
+:is also untrue. For context, Fearless is upset about me calling multiple statements of his in our public server (or those of Mira/our communities) unacceptable. Some examples:
+:“I already told the stewards that I don't want the IBW to be here from the very start... IBW is just a massive mess and jank that I dislike having to deal with
+:Asking an established wiki community of ours if they had been banned from Mira and why they chose WikiOasis over Miraheze
+:“oasis is basically like a not so great training academy [for mira volunteers] but it works."
+:“I do know so I can make the comment. But WO is in no position to host such a wiki (Italian brainrot wiki]. We have zero manpower."
+:His constant demeaning of the Italian Brainrot Wiki and honestly WO as a whole in both public spaces (and private ones, which I won’t share for his privacy) is concerning. I have no issue with him (or anyone) holding an opinion, but being constantly degrading to people who are working hard on their wiki in public spaces is not the conduct I expect from a volunteer.
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+:{{quote|keep the board's ability to appoint roles}}
+:More lies, unfortunately. I was the first to support the motion to allow the community to directly elect stewards, global sysops, and global patrollers. I was definitely initially skeptical, but ever since the first round of votes, I’ve been in support of it because of the great turnout. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 14:13, 23 May 2026 (UTC)