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== Raidarr (steward) ==
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::Successful. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 16:53, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
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I did not expect to fire for this role at first, on account of being in quite a few places and being on projects that must take higher priority.
Seeing existing requests I have shifted in this position, and I believe I would offer some value as a figure providing second-opinions who can temper decision making, a presence in appeals, and occasionally someone to complete first line actions if I am in the right spot and ahead on other projects, among other aspects a Steward is involved in.
I would also like to exert some influence in developing the community model with insights from, but not directly mirroring Miraheze. Indirect activity like this I consider a major aspect of a community facing role such as Steward. I am interested in other organizational aspects such as pushing for the reduction of direct board bureaucracy in local governance and optimizing the procedures the platform uses in favor of more straightforward and thoughtful service. Stewardship is a role offering gravitas quite useful in these fields even if it does not directly control them.
This is the capacity I offer if the project would like to have it, I welcome critical votes and any questions that might interest you.
Thank you, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 16:29, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
:<small>This candidate has signed an NDA with the WikiOasis Foundation as required for the role</small> --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:08, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
=== Questions ===
# Given your involvement in multiple projects, how will you ensure consistent availability for steward responsibilities here?
# What types of steward tasks would you prioritize, and which would you realistically leave to others?
# You mentioned reducing board bureaucracy. Are there any specific processes that you would change first, and how would you avoid creating chaos or inconsistency?
# Where do you personally believe the boundary lies between board authority and community governance, and how would you handle situations where that boundary is unclear or contested? -[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 17:05, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
:#Consistent availability will not be possible I'm afraid; I expect that I will not be a very prominent everyday figure as there are multiple existing staff and candidates likely to be more visible in the community.  What I offer is more subtle to be elaborated in #2, and I can offer that much because ultimately I am available on discord alone by direct ping pretty much always and at least browse on an occasional basis which I can boost to daily or near-daily on-wiki logins. In the end there is enough investment here I am unlikely to totally vanish, short of an incident so discouraging I no longer wish to have affiliation.
:# I would prioritize offering a second or alternate view in more involved decisions such as community interventions or CU investigations, being an alternate or fresh, or occasionally quite biased by experience opinion which may rear itself in wiki requests, appeals or again following up on an intervention that was started by another, and as possible soliciting community input and more rarely directly tackling more everyday issues. Where desired I'd like to impart topical experience to peers and help them get new skills. First line wiki reviews, most matters of CU/common vandalism, and support tasks along the steward requests or help desk variety will likely be more quickly served by a peer. How likely I am to chew on those is a measure you can probably gather by how the Miraheze queues are looking as that would necessarily be where I look first on most occasions.
:#First thought, reducing how much of community process depends on a board specific vote verses what can be delegated to a more flexible and community involved 'lower structure'. Instead of codifying "Operations Team" matters directly into the bylaws, an Operations Team page, or I would honestly prefer Community Team page or category could exist laying out the roles, or being a hub to refer to each role. This can be addressed more flexibly first by an initial board adoption of the starting version and modified later by RfCs, and perhaps consultations that still seek community input but will proceed barring a clear case not to. A similar veto that exists for unsuitable candidates could exist for sparse use on RfCs. I would not consider this course chaotic, and any flaws in this plan that would create inconsistency could be discussed and resolved. For a bonus, the title of operations director itself could well be streamlined into a simple board 'vote of no confidence' and a steward peer may be able to do an emergency removal which later solicits community/board validation. Also along these lines I have thought for a moment now, there is not much semantic purpose to the division of 'safety' and 'steward' operations here. The two often overlap and there is little specialized knowledge or need as far as I know on the platform to make T&S a truly separate process. The two could become one and the existing T&S lead can instead be the T&S contact for the occasional compliance purpose that may come up. I do not see that really causing any problems but any of these thoughts should of course be discussed and not taken at face value.
:# Its hard to further specify absent a scenario and a case where a steward-only figure would not simply hand the matter to the board and ask 'so what do you want to do here', which is likely the most frequent answer. Technically speaking the way to interpret the line from my part would be to observe the [[Board/Bylaws]] and use that as a model while attempting to approach the situation diplomatically, in other words, ask how can things operate correctly while also keeping the goodwill of the community. It could be to escalate a change to the bylaws to fit or clarify, hand the matter to the board advising a response that does not alienate the user base, or if its the way to go, advise the user(s) that this is the way things are done and how to work with that.
:::Twisting into more of a 'where ''should'' the boundary lie' question:
:::It's a matter of purpose. The board acts as a legal and functional necessity to manage boring but crucial matters like finances, the collective 'assets' of the project, specific legal scenarios, perhaps if I am getting ambitious, offering a roadmap and vision and spiritual heart of the platform where each other function comes together, and all of it, in line with what the core mission is, and what the community (that the project is going for) would like to see. And these aspects are ideal to any open service project like this.
:::On another side of is the community facing core of the project which comes under a team, operations presently. Foremost of these figures, the stewards, though this regularly overlaps with the board. They are part of the whole so I wouldn't like to set a hard boundary and call them 'the community governance' axiomatic to 'board authority', but I think it is reasonable to let the community self-represent, the figures empowered by the people work on their behalf, and for the board to also operate on the community's behalf, but in its more indirect way. If it's not clear what people want then it is the duty of leaders, from stewards to the board or direction-setter of tech, to find that out. Not guess but to find out as objectively as possible.
:::If these was a situation like a controversial request for comment where a lot of people want something but the board has fully researched the matter and has good reasons not to do it, I think it would be reasonable for the board to explain this and do what should be a rare override. People might have bones to pick but if the decision has been arrived to in a responsible way then it is what it is and the platform moves on.
:::There are other models that might work, but this is the model I believe Zippy is looking for, as a key founder and the primary technical drive of the platform, and seems to be the direction that others are leaning to as well.
::--'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:44, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
=== Discussion ===
# {{support}}, I think raidarr is the person we need on the community and governance side who is prepared to make difficult decisions that others will not, and has a unique position to make judgement and pass guidance from a more external perspective to help guide things when others are doing so poorly. I don't expect to see much on the anti-abuse side but I trust that if it were to come up from time to time he is capable of handling it responsibly, in addition to the guidance towards others. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:13, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
# {{support}} per Zippy, WikiOasis desperately needs someone that has a large amount of experience and insight as Raidarr, having Raidarr here to even at least train the WikiOasis Volunteers here would be an massive benefit to the platform overall and helps each of us WO Volunteers grow individually as well. I would not be so bothered by his activity as well as he would probably be an back up plan should WO catches on fire metaphorically. Maybe we'll also see Raidarr making an "How to be a Steward 101" guide one day as well for some of us. --[[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 17:34, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
# {{support|strongest}} Per above, Raidarr is already a Miraheze steward and has the experience required for this role. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 18:30, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
# {{Support|Strong}} Trusted and experienced. <span style="background:#EFD8FD;color:Indigo;font-family:serif">~&nbsp;'''''[[User:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">Dream Indigo</span>]]'''''&nbsp;[[User talk:Dream Indigo|<span style="color:Indigo">✩</span>]]</span> 18:34, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
# {{support}} per answers to my questions. —[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 10:48, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
# {{Support|strongest}} Per above. --[[User:PinkPugPrincess|PinkPugPrincess]] ([[User talk:PinkPugPrincess|talk]]) 19:21, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
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== Fearless (Global Administrator) ==
{{discussion top|outcome= This request is successful, gaining the required 5 !votes and support ratio. Globe's concerns have been considered, and I too would like to encourage the candidate to ask a lot of questions to Stewards when in doubt. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:56, 1 May 2026 (UTC)}}
Hey, I'd like to run for Global Administrator so I can assist in CVT-related matters and be able to help the platform on-wiki as well rather then only being able to help on the Discord Server, while being able to have a chance to be mentored by someone extremely experienced like Raidarr and grow my experience & judgement as well. Although I don't have many edits on Meta, I've been in the WikiOasis Discord Server for months now and have assisted in moderation, in addition to helping Skywiki getting merged to WikiOasis. All questions are welcomed and I'll try my best to answer them in a timely order.
Thank you for your consideration, --[[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 13:30, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
=== Questions ===
# Do you believe that community facing users such as Stewards and Global sysops need to be professional when interacting with community members on-wiki and off-wiki? Does it matter with whom you are speaking to? -[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 13:44, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
:I believe respect is for everyone (that is being reasonable) regardless of whatever position they are in or anywhere. However, I hold higher respect for people such as Raidarr whom has given me priceless advice before that I couldn't get elsewhere until recently this year. Though, for professionalism, while I would say I treat it similarly as respecting people, but it depends on where and context.
:*If I'm in a public space, doesn't matter if it's on or off wiki (such as WikiOasis Discord Server at #general), I'll try to be a bit professional in my responses and be more patient for individuals who isn't being incredibly disrespectful (like calling volunteers nazis, for example).
:*If I'm in a friend group, then I won't be professional at all, no need to be stiff when you don't have to.
:I hope I have addressed your question appropriately. Thank you. --[[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 14:06, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
=== Discussion ===
# I will enter and say {{support}}, but other things as well. Generally, I think you could do reasonably with the role here; its a good place to grow from and you do improve as time goes on. It can help you get more used to features and working with people. As far as one thing to improve, Globe asked a good question and I think your answer is quite muddled. Now, I'm the one who will make it clear if I do not like you for your approach from the outset, I am after all the one who made [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?logid=1747055 this lock] on Miraheze. But there are a few things to say about this. For one it was exceptional in proportion to the attitude. You can review that profile and see they really pushed the boundary and no less than that should elicit the most curt responses. Secondly even with that in mind, it really isn't the ideal response. It can feel good to make, but it's not very professional and it does not contribute to the better image of Miraheze. After the action I'd wondered if anyone would think so and I did not see comment about it, but if someone did comment about that they'd be well within their rights. So if there is anyone I hold in greater respect when taking actions its people like peer NotAracham who is consistently professional, and yet has a more 'fearsome reputation' in some circles (I'm told, anyway). Here I've said in a couple places Dream Indigo is the role model for representation, they remind me of Reception123 on Miraheze. A consistent face, friendly but capable of being firm. So what is a good answer to Globe? I think it is to commit to a baseline of respect. You give everyone a fair chance, an initially equal opportunity from the moment they first turn up. You resist the urge to withhold it, unless it is proven decisively that it is not deserved, as MrPseudonymousEgo did by attacking a volunteer, and doubling down when the consequences were delivered despite saying he was leaving anyway. Even then the above would apply, but then you're mixing both necessary professionalism with a honest reflection of principle, and not accepting the premise of abuse. You also set a very high bar before the claws come out. Not every occasion of bad attitude or being a dick deserves your rebuke, and a respect-first attitude helps you avoid making that call when it simply isn't fair. Food for thought, --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 12:05, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
# {{support}} I would like to begin by stating that he has addressed my inquiries regarding his candidacy on Discord, and I must say that his responses were quite close to what I was seeking. I believe this could serve as a solid foundation for him to learn. --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:04, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
# {{support}} — I expect you to obviously make some mistakes, but I think overall you're in the right place and I think with some guidance you should be able to contribute positively to the project. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 19:05, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
# I've mulled over this for a few days, and I think I'm going to land at a {{oppose|Weak}}. I have a few concerns regarding Fearless's previous interactions with some of our communities and unfamiliarity with our processes. In the previous request, it was mentioned that despite Fearless's lack of experience on-wiki, they are still familiar with how the wiki operates due to them being active on the Discord. A few things have surfaced over the past few days/weeks that make me question this philosophy. I'll name a few:
:# Asking stewards to close Raidarr's after it had been open for just three days, simply because of the vote count
:# Asking one of our communities why they chose WikiOasis over Miraheze, and specifically inquiring about whether or not they were banned from Mira (they were not)
:# Making comments in the Miraheze Discord server about how "oasis is basically like a not so great training academy [for mira volunteers] but it works."
:# Taking it upon themselves to make statements on behalf of WikiOasis in semi-public spaces, such as "I do know so I can make the comment. But WO is in no position to host such a wiki. We have zero manpower."
:These are just a few that I recalled when writing this, but more have appeared through our interactions that have given me pause to support a request for global sysop if this is what they have done ''without'' any additional tools. All of these together, combined with no on-wiki experience anywhere that I am aware of and the extremely vague response to my question, concerns me. If elected, I would encourage Fearless to familiarize themselves with more of our inter-workings and ask frequent questions of the team before acting. -[[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 21:09, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
::I suspect the third one is partially my fault because I have expressed the thought that oasis for its much more informal structure and younger management can act as a sort of 'proving ground' to consider at Miraheze, but a not so great training academy is a poor way to phrase that and it is by no means anything official. I will concur the need to be far more careful in open statements, especially 2 and 4. 1 is a procedural quirk I assume has already been corrected. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 12:01, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
: Going to go with a {{support|weak}}, I have had ok interactions with Fearless but I understand there have been some issues. Not sure I can comment too much, mostly because I'm the new kid on the block. [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 21:26, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
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== Sapphire Jack (Global Administrator) ==
{{discussion top|'''Withdrawn''' as said on WO Discord, and this request would not have passed due to canvassing, inexperience and have no interactions with the global community nor have any credible contributions in similar wikifarms (Miraheze). A few community members suggested the candidate to run for Global Patroller instead, and the candidate is encouraged to not canvass their vote, involve themselves in the global community by contributing or interacting with discussions, and learn how certain Global Roles work before creating a similar request in the future. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 09:22, 18 May 2026 (UTC)}}
Hey, I’m Sapphire Jack, the owner of the largest wiki on this platform, the Italian Brainrot Wiki. I’d like to run for global administrator so I can gain perspective on how different wikis are managed and gain experience working with different moderation teams, as well as overall helping the platform grow as a whole. If you have any questions about me or my prior experiences, please let me know. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:26, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
=== Questions ===
# What do you currently do that requires Global Administrator capabilities?
# How do you feel the role of a Global Administrator fits in/complements existing local administration teams without so to speak "cramping their style"?
# (shamelessly stolen from raidarr) Do you believe you have made mistakes on this platform so far? If so, what did you do to improve from those mistakes? You could elaborate on just one if you like, or a couple.
# Global Administrators are responsible for wiki creations, how would you go about approaching the following requests, including additional action you may take following the acceptance/denial of each request?
#* A well known troublemaker on the platform decides to request a new wiki, describing it as a new "uncensored encyclopedia on politics".
#* A brand new user decides to request a wiki saying that they are going to "create their version of Wikipedia".
#* A brand new user requests a wiki and fills the request form with racial slurs and abuse towards our staff members?
Best,
--'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 06:14, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:# I’m an experienced moderator, and would like to be able to help moderate other wikis, while ensuring everyone follows global policy. Also, on my current wiki, there is a frequent amount of users requiring to get globally locked for underage/breaking other global rules. I could deal with those global locks entirely, so other global admins/stewards could spend their energy elsewhere.
:# Global admins try to help deal with major vandals, however, each wiki has its own structure, style, and way of running. Aside from enforcing global policies, we don’t need to interfere with that.
:# I don’t believe I’ve made any mistakes on the platform so far, and after taking a poll, the users on my wiki agree that I’m the “Best owner ever.”
:# For the first example, I would simply deny the request, no further action needed. For the second example, I would also deny the request: we don’t need a forked wikipedia. However, for the third example, I would not only deny the request, I would also Glock them and ask a Steward to run an alt check to see if they’re an alt of an existing vandal.
:[[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 12:41, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
=== Discussion ===
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*@[[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] have you been on other Wiki platforms before as I would often use those as perspective  [[User:Lvst7070|Lvst7070]] ([[User talk:Lvst7070|talk]]) 03:39, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:Yes, my wiki was previously on Miraheze, before getting moved to here. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:I’ve also used fandom [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
{{collapse top|Struck vote with extended discussion}}
*<s>{{oppose}} submitting an opposition. I strongly encourage the candidate to explore alternative ways to contribute that do not involve advanced permissions before requesting any such permissions. Furthermore, I do not currently feel comfortable granting advanced permissions to someone who is not well-known within the community without demonstrating the necessary skills and trust required for these permissions. Being a moderator alone does not justify sufficient experience to warrant the level of expertise needed for these permissions, as there is much more involved than merely understanding the fundamentals of moderating MediaWiki functions and knowing how to utilize the tools. --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 16:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)</s>
*:Struck due to the use of LLMs in this comment. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 16:34, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*::reading that that does not sound like it was made by LLAMAS at all yes that's what I call llms llamas  [[User:Lvst7070|Lvst7070]] ([[User talk:Lvst7070|talk]]) 17:21, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*::I did use LLMS, however probably shouldn't of - There is no policy against it  And therefore should unstriked  until such policy is put into place  [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:::There is no policy against murdering people who vandalise wikis, it's still frowned upon --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*::::I mean, there's the law.. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:27, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*::It's very generic and doesn't follow the pattern of writing I'd expect to see, and makes no grammatical sense: "Oppose submitting an opposition" is a double negative. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:<blockquote> Oppose submitting an opposition </blockquote>
*:Do you support or oppose? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:: oppose- However, there is still no policy which Underlines such  [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:26, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:::Again, it's frowned upon, and removes any validity from your argument, the whole point is simply they "don't have enough experience", but you could've just written that instead of a paragraph of incoherent blabber that I makes little to no sense --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:32, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*I note for the record on this tangent that it is not ideal to strike a full voting comment. Where its usefulness comes in, like what kind of argument it makes or even the fact its an llm, would be a post-closure determination. It would weigh rather less for being incoherent or wrong, while it may have greater influence if it is well reasoned. I believe this is the steward duty, rather than a pre emptive full strike since the alternative is people just don't offer reasoning at all, like what actually happened. I do agree the initial position was rather nonsensical. Now 'collapsing' this section so it is less of a confusing read later. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:08, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
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*{{support|weak}}: ultimately I don't see a major difference between your credibility and that of the other GS/Stews. I think there's room here to coach and grow. The work on IBW — wrangling a fairly substantial number of misbehaving children without leaving it as someone else's problem — is definitely something in your favour, however I don't know whether GS is the way to go for this. I commend you throwing your hat into the ring. I implore to you that if this request does succeed that you take things slowly and learn how they work before doing anything drastic, but generally I don't have any significant concerns beyond the general lack of experience, although it's not incomparable to what already exists on the team, and I'd hope you could shape into a fairly active contributor globally with the right guidance, but I won't jump the gun there. Best, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 17:24, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{oppose}} I'm not thrilled about them canvassing. They also show a lack of knowledge of what the duties of a global SYOSP are, which leaves me to oppose this request. I'd strongly advise the candidate to find other ways to help that don't require global rights; perhaps in the future they can be reconsidered. And coached on how to use the tools if they can show maturity in the future. I don't find them being an "admin of Italian brainrot" a sufficient reason to be a global admin, as there is way more to it than just being a local admin and other tools to learn how to use that a global admin has access to. Their reasoning is also not convincing enough as to why they need These tools, IMHO, --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 17:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*:Just so you know, I’m not just a moderator on the wiki, I’m the owner. I’ve been working with different stewards for quite some time now, and have been moderating for nearly a year now. Raidarr is a steward on miraheze, so he can fill you in on the details about his experience with me when the wiki was on miraheze. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 21:29, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{Neutral}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 00:58, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
*going to go with an {{oppose}} here, while I applaud your efforts and acknowledge you've been helpful but I personally believe the GA toolset is too advanced for someone who has little presence outside their own wiki. I don't think simply having experience managing your own wiki makes you qualified for such a large hat. I would suggest trying to build a helpful presence such as on our Discord or here on meta. [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 21:00, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
* This is not a voting comment but I will say that Sapphire Jack has a very thankless role with experience that is unique even among the current crew of global volunteers. It takes real effort to keep a community with heavy appeal to rambunctious children in order, and to do that actively. And Sapphire is at the top of that list, not just any moderator on the team. Now I address Sapphire directly. I think there is reasonable concern that a global role like this requires somewhat different skills from maintaining a single, although large community. These are things I'm sure you could learn and your second answer is very promising. I think people would be generally more comfortable with you as Global Patroller where you can be included in global affairs and get an idea how they work/prove that capability, and then expand to larger access. But relative to the current volunteers I don't think your competence is out of range for advancing straight to Global Administrator. Regardless what you get, I wish you the best of luck and I'm pleased you're looking into something new like this. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 22:19, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
* <s>I'm going to drop a {{support}} here. Your work handling the challenge that IBW can has been impressive and you've always seemed easy to work with. I think there's definitely some global training that is needed, but you seem willing to learn and your answers to questions don't raise any major red flags. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 23:25, 14 May 2026 (UTC)</s>
*: Changing to {{oppose}} for a few reasons. I've monitored a few discussions between stewards and the candidate and they seem to show a fundamental lack of understanding of what a global administrator does and what they should not do. I wasn't initially planning to fully oppose, however, the candidate has [[w:WP:CANVASS|canvassed]] users to this discussion, which is far below what I expect of a GA. [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 20:15, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
* <s>I'll go ahead and drop a {{support}}. You have a clue and are not a jerk. This role isn't a big deal anyways, it doesn't include PII access or even global locks. </s>[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:38, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
*: {{Oppose}} for canvassing users to this discussion in private. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:27, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
* {{oppose|weak}} While I believe your work in keeping IBW from exploding is extremely respectable. I don't think you have enough interactions on meta here or have any credibility elsewhere I have observed, I would rather you be Global Patroller for a bit to learn how WikiOasis Global Enforcement works first before expanding, basically referencing Crystalite here. [[User:Fearless|Fearless]] ([[User talk:Fearless|talk]]) 01:19, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
*:cough cough *guilty as charged* cough cough [[User:Crystalite13|Crystalite13]] ([[User talk:Crystalite13|talk]]) 01:30, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
:<div class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''Relisted following steward discussion to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 14:50, 17 May 2026 (UTC) 12:29, 17 May 2026 (UTC)</small>
:Wait, what? [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 14:54, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
::It's the general agreement among Stewards that your request should not have been closed as it didn't yet meet the 2/3 support ratio required for election. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 14:58, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{oppose}} he's a power demon and demoted me from admin to rollbacker on ibw because I called him out for using world edit on the wiki Minecraft server, he also generally acts like a dictator [[User:Q|Q]] ([[User talk:Q|talk]]) 17:09, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{oppose}} I don't even know this person that well enough, so I don't have that much confidence. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 17:12, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*:Wouldn’t that be reason for abstain or neutral tho? [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 20:15, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*::you're not getting gadmin lil bro 💔 [[User:Q|Q]] ([[User talk:Q|talk]]) 20:25, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*:::{{ping|Sapphire Jack}} Since you resorted to basically [[w:WP:CANVAS|canvassing other editors]], I don't have any trust in you to even be a global admin, never mind gaining any advanced rights. There's not a [[w:WP:SNOW|snowball's chance in hell]] this will be a success with the direction this is heading in, if you ask me. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 23:23, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*::::I apologize for canvassing my vote. I was unaware that attempting to convince people to support my rfp was against global policy, and understand I shouldn’t have done that. [[User:Sapphire Jack|Sapphire Jack]] ([[User talk:Sapphire Jack|talk]]) 02:56, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
*<s>{{Support}} A good guy, and the best one between the staff in the Brainrot wiki, for example, he rewarded me interface admin after I worked out with Fantaman1209, a controversial kid. He deserves to be a global admin aswell [[User:ElNazari|ElNazari]] ([[User talk:ElNazari|talk]]) 20:39, 17 May 2026 (UTC)</s> Striking as vote is almost certainly canvassed. [[User:Tali64³|Tali64³]] ([[User talk:Tali64³|talk]]) 20:42, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{abstain}} Canvassed the vote, but overall great candidate [[User:Los Tictacsitos|Los Tictacsitos]] ([[User talk:Los Tictacsitos|talk]])  03:06, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{Abstain}} The user in question, Sapphire Jack, is the "owner" of the wiki I most commonly edit in, hence I have some conflict of interest in this discussion. Nevertheless though, I do think he does have good intentions, however, again, good intentions isn't enough to get GA, which from what I can see is quite a senior role. Additionally, in the Italian Brainrot Wiki, he is mostly inactive outside of discussions regarding bureaucrats and relations with other wikis/the farm, and doesn't edit pages to much of a degree nor moderate outside of blocking people who insult him. Most of the administrative work is actually done by bureaucrats like me, to give an example, he haphazardly promoted a user called Cityngeon to the role of Bureaucrat, who changed the requirements of the vote, among other fishy actions (it otherwise wouldn't have passed by quite a margin), which I had to find and bring to attention to him. At the end of the day, though, he could be a somewhat decent candidate. --[[User:SPIRACY NOTCANON|SPIRACY NOTCANON]] ([[User talk:SPIRACY NOTCANON|talk]]) 07:12, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
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G'day, my name is Vwregewrrergrge, though you're welcome to call me VWR. I am a bureaucrat on the largest wiki on WikiOasis (Italian Brainrot Wiki), and a Miraheze contributor with experience across multiple wikis. I actively maintain and contribute to several wikis including the Prehistoric Wiki, the Minecraft Wiki, and the Mathematics Wiki. As it stands, WikiOasis currently has no global patrollers, and I believe that is a gap worth filling. I am volunteering for this role out of genuine concern for the safety and quality of the platform, and to properly support staff in keeping it safe. Underage users are a serious issue on WikiOasis, they return repeatedly despite being blocked, and having a dedicated global patroller reporting directly to staff would make handling these cases significantly easier. On average, a blocked underage user creates around 5 alt accounts, and I have experience detecting them through patterns in writing style, user page formatting, and also grammar. I take this application seriously and I hope it is received the same way, and I am not trying to act like a security guard, what is this nonsense, Ii anyone is willing to guide me through any responsibilities associated with the role, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|VWR]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 2:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
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*{{oppose}}. You have solicited PII from suspected underage users. That is simply inappropriate, and this is a matter of public record. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:57, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*:I understand where you're coming from, I shouldn't have asked for that information and I won't do it again, I now know the right way to handle it. Sorry. [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|Vwregewrrergrge]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 15:02, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*{{oppose|strong}} users should not be acting as vigilantes, especially not on the matter of child safety. They should report it to safety and not be soliciting their personal information through the platform. To be frank I am surprised that more action was not taken at the time of the incident, however this is definitely a no from me. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 15:01, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*:Understood, and I respect your concern, looking back I should have immediately reported it to staff rather than taking matters into my own hands, and I genuinely regret that. This role is exactly what would stop me from ever needing to do that again since I'd have the proper tools and authority to handle it the right way. There were some mistakes I have made, do not hate me for that. There are no Global patrollers. [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|Vwregewrrergrge]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 15:04, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*::The fact there are no global patrollers is not a reason to support your request. You have been acting as a vigilante against underage users, and then proceed to list that as a reason why you want the bit. You do not need the global patroller tools to make a safety report. --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 15:06, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*::Global patroller has no tools involved for this process. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|📡]]''')''' 15:07, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*:::You're right, I don't need the tools to report, but having them would let me help WikiOasis much faster and more effectively, and that's genuinely all I want to do, along with helping with pages, stubs, technical problems if necessary, I just want to provide WikiOasis with help. [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|Vwregewrrergrge]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 15:11, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*::::I don't think this is going anywhere — Global patroller does not have any tools that particularly enhance the ability for someone to provide technical support nor edit pages --'''[[User:Zippy|zippy]]'''[[User talk:Zippy|bonzo]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Zippy|c]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Zippy|ca]]) 15:16, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
*:::::Yes, I have decided to After withdraw this vote, I might commence it again in the future, I understand that I am not ready. Please, may someone shut this vote down? [[User:Vwregewrrergrge|Vwregewrrergrge]] ([[User talk:Vwregewrrergrge|talk]]) 15:21, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
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Justarandomamerican (Steward)

Steward for Zippy

Tali64³ (Steward)

Globe (steward)

Crystalite13 (Global Sysop)

Fearless (Steward)

Bosco (Global sysop)

Raidarr (steward)


Fearless (Global Administrator)

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This request is successful, gaining the required 5 !votes and support ratio. Globe's concerns have been considered, and I too would like to encourage the candidate to ask a lot of questions to Stewards when in doubt. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:56, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Hey, I'd like to run for Global Administrator so I can assist in CVT-related matters and be able to help the platform on-wiki as well rather then only being able to help on the Discord Server, while being able to have a chance to be mentored by someone extremely experienced like Raidarr and grow my experience & judgement as well. Although I don't have many edits on Meta, I've been in the WikiOasis Discord Server for months now and have assisted in moderation, in addition to helping Skywiki getting merged to WikiOasis. All questions are welcomed and I'll try my best to answer them in a timely order.

Thank you for your consideration, --Fearless (talk) 13:30, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

Questions

  1. Do you believe that community facing users such as Stewards and Global sysops need to be professional when interacting with community members on-wiki and off-wiki? Does it matter with whom you are speaking to? -Globe (talk) 13:44, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
I believe respect is for everyone (that is being reasonable) regardless of whatever position they are in or anywhere. However, I hold higher respect for people such as Raidarr whom has given me priceless advice before that I couldn't get elsewhere until recently this year. Though, for professionalism, while I would say I treat it similarly as respecting people, but it depends on where and context.
  • If I'm in a public space, doesn't matter if it's on or off wiki (such as WikiOasis Discord Server at #general), I'll try to be a bit professional in my responses and be more patient for individuals who isn't being incredibly disrespectful (like calling volunteers nazis, for example).
  • If I'm in a friend group, then I won't be professional at all, no need to be stiff when you don't have to.
I hope I have addressed your question appropriately. Thank you. --Fearless (talk) 14:06, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

Discussion

  1. I will enter and say  Support, but other things as well. Generally, I think you could do reasonably with the role here; its a good place to grow from and you do improve as time goes on. It can help you get more used to features and working with people. As far as one thing to improve, Globe asked a good question and I think your answer is quite muddled. Now, I'm the one who will make it clear if I do not like you for your approach from the outset, I am after all the one who made this lock on Miraheze. But there are a few things to say about this. For one it was exceptional in proportion to the attitude. You can review that profile and see they really pushed the boundary and no less than that should elicit the most curt responses. Secondly even with that in mind, it really isn't the ideal response. It can feel good to make, but it's not very professional and it does not contribute to the better image of Miraheze. After the action I'd wondered if anyone would think so and I did not see comment about it, but if someone did comment about that they'd be well within their rights. So if there is anyone I hold in greater respect when taking actions its people like peer NotAracham who is consistently professional, and yet has a more 'fearsome reputation' in some circles (I'm told, anyway). Here I've said in a couple places Dream Indigo is the role model for representation, they remind me of Reception123 on Miraheze. A consistent face, friendly but capable of being firm. So what is a good answer to Globe? I think it is to commit to a baseline of respect. You give everyone a fair chance, an initially equal opportunity from the moment they first turn up. You resist the urge to withhold it, unless it is proven decisively that it is not deserved, as MrPseudonymousEgo did by attacking a volunteer, and doubling down when the consequences were delivered despite saying he was leaving anyway. Even then the above would apply, but then you're mixing both necessary professionalism with a honest reflection of principle, and not accepting the premise of abuse. You also set a very high bar before the claws come out. Not every occasion of bad attitude or being a dick deserves your rebuke, and a respect-first attitude helps you avoid making that call when it simply isn't fair. Food for thought, --raidarr (📡) 12:05, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
  2.  Support I would like to begin by stating that he has addressed my inquiries regarding his candidacy on Discord, and I must say that his responses were quite close to what I was seeking. I believe this could serve as a solid foundation for him to learn. --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 17:04, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
  3.  Support — I expect you to obviously make some mistakes, but I think overall you're in the right place and I think with some guidance you should be able to contribute positively to the project. --zippybonzo (cca) 19:05, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
  4. I've mulled over this for a few days, and I think I'm going to land at a  Weak oppose. I have a few concerns regarding Fearless's previous interactions with some of our communities and unfamiliarity with our processes. In the previous request, it was mentioned that despite Fearless's lack of experience on-wiki, they are still familiar with how the wiki operates due to them being active on the Discord. A few things have surfaced over the past few days/weeks that make me question this philosophy. I'll name a few:
  1. Asking stewards to close Raidarr's after it had been open for just three days, simply because of the vote count
  2. Asking one of our communities why they chose WikiOasis over Miraheze, and specifically inquiring about whether or not they were banned from Mira (they were not)
  3. Making comments in the Miraheze Discord server about how "oasis is basically like a not so great training academy [for mira volunteers] but it works."
  4. Taking it upon themselves to make statements on behalf of WikiOasis in semi-public spaces, such as "I do know so I can make the comment. But WO is in no position to host such a wiki. We have zero manpower."
These are just a few that I recalled when writing this, but more have appeared through our interactions that have given me pause to support a request for global sysop if this is what they have done without any additional tools. All of these together, combined with no on-wiki experience anywhere that I am aware of and the extremely vague response to my question, concerns me. If elected, I would encourage Fearless to familiarize themselves with more of our inter-workings and ask frequent questions of the team before acting. -Globe (talk) 21:09, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
I suspect the third one is partially my fault because I have expressed the thought that oasis for its much more informal structure and younger management can act as a sort of 'proving ground' to consider at Miraheze, but a not so great training academy is a poor way to phrase that and it is by no means anything official. I will concur the need to be far more careful in open statements, especially 2 and 4. 1 is a procedural quirk I assume has already been corrected. --raidarr (📡) 12:01, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
Going to go with a  Weak support, I have had ok interactions with Fearless but I understand there have been some issues. Not sure I can comment too much, mostly because I'm the new kid on the block. Crystalite13 (talk) 21:26, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

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Sapphire Jack (Global Administrator)

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Withdrawn as said on WO Discord, and this request would not have passed due to canvassing, inexperience and have no interactions with the global community nor have any credible contributions in similar wikifarms (Miraheze). A few community members suggested the candidate to run for Global Patroller instead, and the candidate is encouraged to not canvass their vote, involve themselves in the global community by contributing or interacting with discussions, and learn how certain Global Roles work before creating a similar request in the future. Fearless (talk) 09:22, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

Hey, I’m Sapphire Jack, the owner of the largest wiki on this platform, the Italian Brainrot Wiki. I’d like to run for global administrator so I can gain perspective on how different wikis are managed and gain experience working with different moderation teams, as well as overall helping the platform grow as a whole. If you have any questions about me or my prior experiences, please let me know. Sapphire Jack (talk) 03:26, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Questions

  1. What do you currently do that requires Global Administrator capabilities?
  2. How do you feel the role of a Global Administrator fits in/complements existing local administration teams without so to speak "cramping their style"?
  3. (shamelessly stolen from raidarr) Do you believe you have made mistakes on this platform so far? If so, what did you do to improve from those mistakes? You could elaborate on just one if you like, or a couple.
  4. Global Administrators are responsible for wiki creations, how would you go about approaching the following requests, including additional action you may take following the acceptance/denial of each request?
    • A well known troublemaker on the platform decides to request a new wiki, describing it as a new "uncensored encyclopedia on politics".
    • A brand new user decides to request a wiki saying that they are going to "create their version of Wikipedia".
    • A brand new user requests a wiki and fills the request form with racial slurs and abuse towards our staff members?

Best, --zippybonzo (cca) 06:14, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

  1. I’m an experienced moderator, and would like to be able to help moderate other wikis, while ensuring everyone follows global policy. Also, on my current wiki, there is a frequent amount of users requiring to get globally locked for underage/breaking other global rules. I could deal with those global locks entirely, so other global admins/stewards could spend their energy elsewhere.
  2. Global admins try to help deal with major vandals, however, each wiki has its own structure, style, and way of running. Aside from enforcing global policies, we don’t need to interfere with that.
  3. I don’t believe I’ve made any mistakes on the platform so far, and after taking a poll, the users on my wiki agree that I’m the “Best owner ever.”
  4. For the first example, I would simply deny the request, no further action needed. For the second example, I would also deny the request: we don’t need a forked wikipedia. However, for the third example, I would not only deny the request, I would also Glock them and ask a Steward to run an alt check to see if they’re an alt of an existing vandal.
Sapphire Jack (talk) 12:41, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Discussion

  • @Sapphire Jack have you been on other Wiki platforms before as I would often use those as perspective Lvst7070 (talk) 03:39, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    Yes, my wiki was previously on Miraheze, before getting moved to here. Sapphire Jack (talk) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    I’ve also used fandom Sapphire Jack (talk) 03:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
Struck vote with extended discussion
  •  Oppose submitting an opposition. I strongly encourage the candidate to explore alternative ways to contribute that do not involve advanced permissions before requesting any such permissions. Furthermore, I do not currently feel comfortable granting advanced permissions to someone who is not well-known within the community without demonstrating the necessary skills and trust required for these permissions. Being a moderator alone does not justify sufficient experience to warrant the level of expertise needed for these permissions, as there is much more involved than merely understanding the fundamentals of moderating MediaWiki functions and knowing how to utilize the tools. --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    Struck due to the use of LLMs in this comment. --zippybonzo (cca) 16:34, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    reading that that does not sound like it was made by LLAMAS at all yes that's what I call llms llamas Lvst7070 (talk) 17:21, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    I did use LLMS, however probably shouldn't of - There is no policy against it And therefore should unstriked until such policy is put into place Cocopuff2018 (talk) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    There is no policy against murdering people who vandalise wikis, it's still frowned upon --zippybonzo (cca) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    I mean, there's the law.. Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:27, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    It's very generic and doesn't follow the pattern of writing I'd expect to see, and makes no grammatical sense: "Oppose submitting an opposition" is a double negative. --zippybonzo (cca) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

    Oppose submitting an opposition

    Do you support or oppose? Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    oppose- However, there is still no policy which Underlines such Cocopuff2018 (talk) 17:26, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    Again, it's frowned upon, and removes any validity from your argument, the whole point is simply they "don't have enough experience", but you could've just written that instead of a paragraph of incoherent blabber that I makes little to no sense --zippybonzo (cca) 17:32, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
  • I note for the record on this tangent that it is not ideal to strike a full voting comment. Where its usefulness comes in, like what kind of argument it makes or even the fact its an llm, would be a post-closure determination. It would weigh rather less for being incoherent or wrong, while it may have greater influence if it is well reasoned. I believe this is the steward duty, rather than a pre emptive full strike since the alternative is people just don't offer reasoning at all, like what actually happened. I do agree the initial position was rather nonsensical. Now 'collapsing' this section so it is less of a confusing read later. --raidarr (📡) 22:08, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Weak support: ultimately I don't see a major difference between your credibility and that of the other GS/Stews. I think there's room here to coach and grow. The work on IBW — wrangling a fairly substantial number of misbehaving children without leaving it as someone else's problem — is definitely something in your favour, however I don't know whether GS is the way to go for this. I commend you throwing your hat into the ring. I implore to you that if this request does succeed that you take things slowly and learn how they work before doing anything drastic, but generally I don't have any significant concerns beyond the general lack of experience, although it's not incomparable to what already exists on the team, and I'd hope you could shape into a fairly active contributor globally with the right guidance, but I won't jump the gun there. Best, --zippybonzo (cca) 17:24, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I'm not thrilled about them canvassing. They also show a lack of knowledge of what the duties of a global SYOSP are, which leaves me to oppose this request. I'd strongly advise the candidate to find other ways to help that don't require global rights; perhaps in the future they can be reconsidered. And coached on how to use the tools if they can show maturity in the future. I don't find them being an "admin of Italian brainrot" a sufficient reason to be a global admin, as there is way more to it than just being a local admin and other tools to learn how to use that a global admin has access to. Their reasoning is also not convincing enough as to why they need These tools, IMHO, --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 17:31, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    Just so you know, I’m not just a moderator on the wiki, I’m the owner. I’ve been working with different stewards for quite some time now, and have been moderating for nearly a year now. Raidarr is a steward on miraheze, so he can fill you in on the details about his experience with me when the wiki was on miraheze. Sapphire Jack (talk) 21:29, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Neutral AlPaD (talk) 00:58, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
  • going to go with an  Oppose here, while I applaud your efforts and acknowledge you've been helpful but I personally believe the GA toolset is too advanced for someone who has little presence outside their own wiki. I don't think simply having experience managing your own wiki makes you qualified for such a large hat. I would suggest trying to build a helpful presence such as on our Discord or here on meta. Crystalite13 (talk) 21:00, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
  • This is not a voting comment but I will say that Sapphire Jack has a very thankless role with experience that is unique even among the current crew of global volunteers. It takes real effort to keep a community with heavy appeal to rambunctious children in order, and to do that actively. And Sapphire is at the top of that list, not just any moderator on the team. Now I address Sapphire directly. I think there is reasonable concern that a global role like this requires somewhat different skills from maintaining a single, although large community. These are things I'm sure you could learn and your second answer is very promising. I think people would be generally more comfortable with you as Global Patroller where you can be included in global affairs and get an idea how they work/prove that capability, and then expand to larger access. But relative to the current volunteers I don't think your competence is out of range for advancing straight to Global Administrator. Regardless what you get, I wish you the best of luck and I'm pleased you're looking into something new like this. --raidarr (📡) 22:19, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
  • I'm going to drop a  Support here. Your work handling the challenge that IBW can has been impressive and you've always seemed easy to work with. I think there's definitely some global training that is needed, but you seem willing to learn and your answers to questions don't raise any major red flags. Globe (talk) 23:25, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
    Changing to  Oppose for a few reasons. I've monitored a few discussions between stewards and the candidate and they seem to show a fundamental lack of understanding of what a global administrator does and what they should not do. I wasn't initially planning to fully oppose, however, the candidate has canvassed users to this discussion, which is far below what I expect of a GA. Globe (talk) 20:15, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
  • I'll go ahead and drop a  Support. You have a clue and are not a jerk. This role isn't a big deal anyways, it doesn't include PII access or even global locks. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:38, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
     Oppose for canvassing users to this discussion in private. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:27, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Weak oppose While I believe your work in keeping IBW from exploding is extremely respectable. I don't think you have enough interactions on meta here or have any credibility elsewhere I have observed, I would rather you be Global Patroller for a bit to learn how WikiOasis Global Enforcement works first before expanding, basically referencing Crystalite here. Fearless (talk) 01:19, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
    cough cough *guilty as charged* cough cough Crystalite13 (talk) 01:30, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
Relisted following steward discussion to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --zippybonzo (cca) 14:50, 17 May 2026 (UTC) 12:29, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Wait, what? Sapphire Jack (talk) 14:54, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
It's the general agreement among Stewards that your request should not have been closed as it didn't yet meet the 2/3 support ratio required for election. Tali64³ (talk) 14:58, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Oppose he's a power demon and demoted me from admin to rollbacker on ibw because I called him out for using world edit on the wiki Minecraft server, he also generally acts like a dictator Q (talk) 17:09, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I don't even know this person that well enough, so I don't have that much confidence. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:12, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    Wouldn’t that be reason for abstain or neutral tho? Sapphire Jack (talk) 20:15, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    you're not getting gadmin lil bro 💔 Q (talk) 20:25, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    @Sapphire Jack: Since you resorted to basically canvassing other editors, I don't have any trust in you to even be a global admin, never mind gaining any advanced rights. There's not a snowball's chance in hell this will be a success with the direction this is heading in, if you ask me. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:23, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    I apologize for canvassing my vote. I was unaware that attempting to convince people to support my rfp was against global policy, and understand I shouldn’t have done that. Sapphire Jack (talk) 02:56, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Support A good guy, and the best one between the staff in the Brainrot wiki, for example, he rewarded me interface admin after I worked out with Fantaman1209, a controversial kid. He deserves to be a global admin aswell ElNazari (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2026 (UTC) Striking as vote is almost certainly canvassed. Tali64³ (talk) 20:42, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Abstain Canvassed the vote, but overall great candidate Los Tictacsitos (talk) 03:06, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Abstain The user in question, Sapphire Jack, is the "owner" of the wiki I most commonly edit in, hence I have some conflict of interest in this discussion. Nevertheless though, I do think he does have good intentions, however, again, good intentions isn't enough to get GA, which from what I can see is quite a senior role. Additionally, in the Italian Brainrot Wiki, he is mostly inactive outside of discussions regarding bureaucrats and relations with other wikis/the farm, and doesn't edit pages to much of a degree nor moderate outside of blocking people who insult him. Most of the administrative work is actually done by bureaucrats like me, to give an example, he haphazardly promoted a user called Cityngeon to the role of Bureaucrat, who changed the requirements of the vote, among other fishy actions (it otherwise wouldn't have passed by quite a margin), which I had to find and bring to attention to him. At the end of the day, though, he could be a somewhat decent candidate. --SPIRACY NOTCANON (talk) 07:12, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

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Vwregewrrergrge/VWR (Global Patroller)

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Withdrawn Globe (talk) 15:26, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

G'day, my name is Vwregewrrergrge, though you're welcome to call me VWR. I am a bureaucrat on the largest wiki on WikiOasis (Italian Brainrot Wiki), and a Miraheze contributor with experience across multiple wikis. I actively maintain and contribute to several wikis including the Prehistoric Wiki, the Minecraft Wiki, and the Mathematics Wiki. As it stands, WikiOasis currently has no global patrollers, and I believe that is a gap worth filling. I am volunteering for this role out of genuine concern for the safety and quality of the platform, and to properly support staff in keeping it safe. Underage users are a serious issue on WikiOasis, they return repeatedly despite being blocked, and having a dedicated global patroller reporting directly to staff would make handling these cases significantly easier. On average, a blocked underage user creates around 5 alt accounts, and I have experience detecting them through patterns in writing style, user page formatting, and also grammar. I take this application seriously and I hope it is received the same way, and I am not trying to act like a security guard, what is this nonsense, Ii anyone is willing to guide me through any responsibilities associated with the role, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. VWR (talk) 2:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Discussion

  •  Oppose. You have solicited PII from suspected underage users. That is simply inappropriate, and this is a matter of public record. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:57, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    I understand where you're coming from, I shouldn't have asked for that information and I won't do it again, I now know the right way to handle it. Sorry. Vwregewrrergrge (talk) 15:02, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
  •  Strong oppose users should not be acting as vigilantes, especially not on the matter of child safety. They should report it to safety and not be soliciting their personal information through the platform. To be frank I am surprised that more action was not taken at the time of the incident, however this is definitely a no from me. --zippybonzo (cca) 15:01, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    Understood, and I respect your concern, looking back I should have immediately reported it to staff rather than taking matters into my own hands, and I genuinely regret that. This role is exactly what would stop me from ever needing to do that again since I'd have the proper tools and authority to handle it the right way. There were some mistakes I have made, do not hate me for that. There are no Global patrollers. Vwregewrrergrge (talk) 15:04, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    The fact there are no global patrollers is not a reason to support your request. You have been acting as a vigilante against underage users, and then proceed to list that as a reason why you want the bit. You do not need the global patroller tools to make a safety report. --zippybonzo (cca) 15:06, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    Global patroller has no tools involved for this process. --raidarr (📡) 15:07, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    You're right, I don't need the tools to report, but having them would let me help WikiOasis much faster and more effectively, and that's genuinely all I want to do, along with helping with pages, stubs, technical problems if necessary, I just want to provide WikiOasis with help. Vwregewrrergrge (talk) 15:11, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    I don't think this is going anywhere — Global patroller does not have any tools that particularly enhance the ability for someone to provide technical support nor edit pages --zippybonzo (cca) 15:16, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
    Yes, I have decided to After withdraw this vote, I might commence it again in the future, I understand that I am not ready. Please, may someone shut this vote down? Vwregewrrergrge (talk) 15:21, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

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